# Will we really miss guild wars if it was removed?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224>\
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**Created:** [October 13, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224 "2018-10-13T11:50:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/41 "2018-10-13T13:47:58Z")

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Asking around in my Guild and the answer was 28/30 members would regret being able to play only once a month in GW. We all enjoy it very much and it would be a pity to see it only once in four weeks.  
Perhaps it would be a solution to leave the choice to the guilds. Give them the choice in which of the games they want to participate?

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/42 "2018-10-13T13:49:08Z")

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> [@StanLevitan](#):
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> And yet you see no problem with ppl creating threads just to plug their artwork. At least this discussion is 100% about the game. But then again, I don’t have a “beta” in my avatar, so…

Low blow. Please avoid personal attacks so that this thread can stay open.

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**Author:** ![StanLevitan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stanlevitan/32/43775_2.png) [@StanLevitan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StanLevitan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/43 "2018-10-13T13:49:25Z")

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> [@Grundulum](#):
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> People needed a place to vent their frustration (or express their relief) that a former pillar of the game is becoming less important. Even if nothing comes of it and the thread is so much hot air, at least people can express themselves here and not derail other threads.

Thank you, grumpy A-holes like me need a safe space to pointlessly complain about sth, before they get tired and just forget about it.

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**Author:** ![StanLevitan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stanlevitan/32/43775_2.png) [@StanLevitan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StanLevitan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/44 "2018-10-13T13:50:42Z")

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> [@Grundulum](#):
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> Low blow. Please avoid personal attacks so that this thread can stay open.

Is the truth about it the “low” part of the blow?  
BTW, I didn’t mention anyone’s name, so it’s not personal.

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/45 "2018-10-13T13:51:47Z")

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Commenting on almost every post of any player is a sure fire way to derail a thread though, you might toggle it down a bit, this comes from someone who is also pro-GW.

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**Author:** ![StanLevitan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stanlevitan/32/43775_2.png) [@StanLevitan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StanLevitan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/46 "2018-10-13T13:56:09Z")

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Ok, I’m done. I think everybody is tired of my rants, so I’m calling it a day.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/47 "2018-10-13T13:58:08Z")

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Could you please give us a 2nd joke before you leave? 😁

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**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/48 "2018-10-13T13:58:16Z")

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> [@WWDiver](#):
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> Asking around in my Guild and the answer was 28/30 members would regret being able to play only once a month in GW. We all enjoy it very much and it would be a pity to see it only once in four weeks.  
> Perhaps it would be a solution to leave the choice to the guilds. Give them the choice in which of the games they want to participate?

I’m wondering if it’s more a free to play perspective…

Do f2p players prefer guild wars, because they see it as the cheapest and least time consuming mode, or do they really enjoy it for the challenge?

Most discussions on this subject I’ve seen revolve around sigils and time consumption. Meaning the pro guild wars people (based on a lot of threads I’ve read about this subject) usually enjoy playing less than more, so they see all other modes involving sigils as requiring lots of gems and lots of playtime.

I love playing long sessions, and I love having a variety of things to do… It sounds like the pro gw crowd really want less things to do, if all they want in the game is more guild wars and less of everything else. (Again, I’m only going by what you wrote)…

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/49 "2018-10-13T14:15:32Z")

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Personally, I have less free time now than I did earlier in my GoW experience. But the game is adding _more_ things to do on a daily basis, and dangles incentives that make me feel like I am falling behind for not doing everything. Thus Guild Wars, with its maximum of five daily battles, is a pleasant break from the strain of trying to clear my “to-do list”.

It is not a “free to play” vs VIP issue. It’s a “can’t get more than 24 hours in a day” issue.

Edit: but I love the idea of Guild Wars. It is almost exactly what players were clamoring for, for a long time. Guilds set defenses for specific opponents, and everyone competes against other guilds in a (sort-of) zero sum environment. That lends a tension not present in other areas of the game, which is exciting to me and many others.

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**Author:** ![mld-81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mld-81/32/63170_2.png) [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/50 "2018-10-13T14:26:53Z")

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I for one won’t miss guild wars every 3 weeks. Yes that’s my opinion and no I’m not rubbish at it to come to that choice. I don’t like it, the other 2 modes I enjoy. Different horses for different courses.

I appreciate there are people that do enjoy it and would never knock them for doing so. The devs obviously have their reasons for it so it’s either accept it or move on to another game I’m afraid.

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**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/51 "2018-10-13T14:27:35Z")

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> [@Zeddicus2017](#):
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> Do f2p players prefer guild wars, because they see it as the cheapest and least time consuming mode, or do they really enjoy it for the challenge?

If this is a serious question and not just another strawman to try and make the other side of the argument look not credible, then let me answer:  
Yes i enjoy it for the challenge, i enjoy it for the stakes of each match compared to the ~30-40 fluff fights you have to endure in Raids/Invasions that don’t prove challenging in the least bit and are just a chore of endurance until the enemy stats are ramped high enough so what you do on the board actually matters.

I would welcome much more GW fights a day, so i don’t enjoy them for being short.  
The sentiment of “time consumption” in other modes really stems from the many insignificant fights you can’t lose even if you play blindfolded but have to work through to get to the beefy mattering ones.

That is also why i enjoy advancing my delves instead of sitting at lv20, the 3 time consuming high level delves a day are my personal GoW highlight in non-GW weeks(and they also rock in GW weeks).

Edit: Btw i also get salty over lost GW battles, in a healthy way(my neighbours may think differently about it sometimes), it is part of the fun, that the battle actually had the stakes to get to me like that, compared to the more “robotic” mindset i have during PvP grinds or other events.

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/52 "2018-10-13T14:39:22Z")

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Some players are highly paranoiac: every new features that devs are doing are against them…

Devs just add a new weekly event and they don’t have many choices than adding it in the schedule… I don’t really see why they will “throw in the bin” 6 months of work required to create GW…

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**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/53 "2018-10-13T14:40:48Z")

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> [@Gouki](#):
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> If this is a serious question and not just another strawman to try and make the other side of the argument look not credible, then let me answer:

I wasn’t being sarcastic. People constantly bring up Raid and Invasion are “grind fests” and too time consuming… And the pro guild wars crowd is constantly bringing up that guild wars is being treated poorly because it’s not monetized like the other modes…

If you read these threads, like I do, they are littered with folks talking about raid and invasion being boring, and guild wars being the only game mode that’s exciting, and exclaiming guild wars is the only game mode that requires _skill_…

That’s not me being sarcastic.

Most people that want more guild wars want one mode over all others, by demanding more guild wars, or complaining there’s not enough guild wars, they are basically saying, “All I want to do is guild wars…” and if you disagree with that, well, I won’t be surprised.

> [@Grundulum](#):
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> It is not a “free to play” vs VIP issue. It’s a “can’t get more than 24 hours in a day” issue.

Exactly, so you would prefer to have more of a game mode that requires the least amount of play-time to fit your schedule.

You aren’t the only person I’ve seen say they love guild wars because it is only five battles a day.

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**Author:** ![Zepp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zepp/32/42136_2.png) [@Zepp](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zepp)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/54 "2018-10-13T14:48:36Z")

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Now that I have joined a new guild that is very very very low ranked (but rising so fast!), Guild Wars is fun again! Fun again, but not so fun that is needs to be more than once per month.

Guild Wars is a stressful event for many players. It’s the only time that guilds really get on their players about performing well instead of just letting them play however they want. During other events, guild mates on the average could not care less about how everyone is doing in an event.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/55 "2018-10-13T15:53:48Z")

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Short answer: yes.

Long answer:

> [@DigitalWar669](#):
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> Wait, we are getting less guild wars going forward? It’s the only event I look forward to.

> [@Gouki](#):
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> I would miss it, i already do 2/3 of the time.

The flip side (for me) is that the non-GW weeks will (and already do) make the GW week seem better by comparison.

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**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/56 "2018-10-13T16:51:04Z")

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We all love it because we make a little competition amongst ourselves too. It has nothing to do with the length of the games.  
If you want to play long sessions and spend a lot of gems that’s your prerogative, but you must understand not everybody thinks or feels like you. Therefore I would find it a very good idea to leave the choice to the players.

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**Author:** ![Micio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/micio/32/50997_2.png) [@Micio](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Micio)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/57 "2018-10-13T16:54:46Z")

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Nope, it can aswell being removed and i wouldnt care.

Gw is the big bro of arena, a fked up thing badly explained and deeply exploitable (Es: didnt seen anywhere and also never been told that if you dont use a 4 “right color” on attack at least once you can say goodbye to the bonus 2k daily points for having 24 diff troops on def OR how come i never heard anyone say “makr a team that win on turn 1 for high score”, all i’ve ever heard is bring summoners and exploders, that from someone that was/is always getting insane scores).

So yeah, even tho i always did well in gw (except this week, even more cuz tomoz wanna try smthing) i love it as much as arena and it’s just a “duty”.

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**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/58 "2018-10-13T17:15:23Z")

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What is “Guild Wars and the new schedule”? Not all of us can sit down and watch hour-long streams to get news, we foolishly assume news will be made in news posts.

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**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/59 "2018-10-13T17:20:28Z")

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This is what I know.

> [@(!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change/1280/7110):
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> It should be. From the tea leaves posted in this thread, it looks like the game is moving to a standardized four week rotation for all events in the game, with 13 rotations in a 52 week year. If we assume that after this week’s Guild Wars ends, the new schedule rotation starts, the rotation would be: Week 1: Raid Boss + New Faction Weekend Week 2: Guild Wars + Bounty Weekend Week 3: Invasion + New Class Weekend Week 4: New 4.1 Event + Vault Weekend Four types of weekly events + four…

Thanks @Lyrian for taking the time to summarize everything for the rest of us who miss these tidbits. 👍👍

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/will-we-really-miss-guild-wars-if-it-was-removed/47224/60 "2018-10-13T17:35:03Z")

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This will impact only the bracket 1 players since the rewards suck elsewhere. I would prefer see it every 2 weeks since it’s the only way to get decent amount of gems to be able to play the other modes without having to drop money from my pocket.

I really hope the new event will be fun but from what i readed about it, there is not really big change between this mode and invasion/raid mode and i think people will be bored very quick

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