# Why I do the "1-troop defense" thing in PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [May 18, 2017, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347 "2017-05-18T17:49:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/42 "2017-05-19T19:16:33Z")
That’s just recall bias… ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/43 "2017-05-19T19:33:24Z")
> [@beanie42](#): > > > [@EricBLivingston](#): > > > > The fewer troops you use, the faster you get through the “setup” procs of the Empowered troops (which take a couple seconds each) > > Quick tip, but once the first empowered troop is filled you can cast. You don’t need to wait for the entire team to fill up first, and this also short circuits some other starting buff animations. So no need to take less troops, hope that helps. Had a rare oops with this today, my 4x Spirit Fox vs a level 1 bombot. I went to cast my first fox as the traits were going but before I could target the Cursed trait killed off the bombot! Had to close the game since I got stuck. Also, I like Fox x3 + Myzmer, as Myzmer gives 5 magic to each. If you cast before traits finish you don’t get the bonus from Myzmer. This is also applicable in a Elspeth, Bombot, hero, troglodyte build. If you cast the empowered Elspeth on trog before his traits go off you lose his +5 to Bombots stats. ---
**Author:** ![GabrielsPapa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gabrielspapa/32/25197_2.png) [@GabrielsPapa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GabrielsPapa)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/44 "2017-05-19T19:52:13Z")
I have a friend early in the game, level 99. He tried this exploit and isn’t getting single troop opponents - just very weak 4 troop teams. It’s still helpful, but I can’t figure out why it’s working for me but not for him - I get 1 troop options to invade/kill off almost every time (I’m level 666 with Mythic Spirit Fox x4, lvl 1 common card on defense). He has a level 1 rare card for his defense, ends up using his Alastair/Valk/Rowanne/Templar or Elspeth/Bombots team for offense. Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/45 "2017-05-19T20:03:11Z")
Because not many low level players use the 1TD system ---
**Author:** ![Mariox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mariox/32/6721_2.png) [@Mariox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mariox)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/46 "2017-05-19T21:34:08Z")
Doesn’t attacking 1-troop defense eventually get boring? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/47 "2017-05-19T21:38:31Z")
Yes thats why i do it while watching tv ---
**Author:** ![Alkali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alkali/32/16151_2.png) [@Alkali](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Alkali)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/48 "2017-05-19T22:07:11Z")
And I though those 1 troop opponent players are mere egoistical people. As for me, for picking an opponent (assuming all three offers are doable): the one that gives me the desired points for the weekly task. This week it’s beasts and I rather pick a harder 4 troops team with 2 beasts than an easy 1 self-destruct non-beast troop. If you set up one troop then please at least one that counts to the pvp collecting weekly. If there’s any. ---
**Author:** ![Alkali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alkali/32/16151_2.png) [@Alkali](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Alkali)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/49 "2017-05-19T22:12:10Z")
They aren’t bored enough yet and actually still have fun ^^ Doing 1 troop battles repeatedly sounds more like a chore than playing for fun. I’m around level 380 and I encounter 1 troop choices about 2-3x a day. Which is okay. If there’s no team for the weekly task I take that one troop. But I wouldn’t want to have no other choice than ‘fast and no effort at all’ or ‘difficult and long’. ---
**Author:** ![Zelith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelith/32/21457_2.png) [@Zelith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelith)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/50 "2017-05-20T01:37:38Z")
Yes. But frankly so does just about everything in the game after a while. Meta defense teams all day, grinding explore, treasure maps, or turbo one troops. I’m doing all of it to help the guild or so I have more options for GW. Watch YouTube in one window and basically autopilot the right hand clicking in the other. More mindless is actually better that way. ---
**Author:** ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/51 "2017-05-21T09:21:07Z")
So what is going on with guilds whose players chain lose against a 1 card Elsbeth defense? Even if you don’t do anything, you win against that… so how and why are they chain losing against it… In chat channel they say it’s a glitch… but if it’s a glitch, then why are they all members of the same 2 guilds (Ma_ **al and Fi** _\* \*\*\*ves). Are only those two guilds glitched? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 2:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/52 "2017-05-27T02:18:51Z")
@EricBLivingston i have a question brudda… My wife is level 130ish and the 1TD strategy isnt bringing her any 1 troop matches is it because of her level? Would it be better if she set a team with a power around 4k? Is it just not gonna work until she levels higher? Any thoughts cuz i cant seem to figure it out… Thanks brudda ---
**Author:** ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/53 "2017-05-27T16:04:23Z")
I think the defense team needs to be around 5.5k, or it won’t work. She could try putting up a defense team with 2 sucky cards, and see if that gets the wanted team score… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/54 "2017-05-27T16:40:47Z")
Thanks @Mad_Butch we will try that ---
**Author:** ![EmsDad15](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emsdad15/32/31654_2.png) [@EmsDad15](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EmsDad15)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/55 "2017-05-27T19:23:28Z")
This is exactly what is happening to me also. PS4. I tried and haven’t had any one troop D. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/56 "2017-05-27T21:06:43Z")
In general, there seem to be very few people on PS4 using the 1-troop defence, mostly because it doesn’t appear to work for us. At high levels, there can be some slight benefit from getting easier revenges, but it is hardly noticeable. ---
**Author:** ![Mad\_Butch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mad_butch/32/22903_2.png) [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 6:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/57 "2017-05-28T06:17:41Z")
I put my one card defense up on ps4… we gotta start somewhere 🙂 And it should still give you easier battles, even if not (yet) against 1 card defenses… ---
**Author:** ![EmsDad15](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emsdad15/32/31654_2.png) [@EmsDad15](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EmsDad15)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 7:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/58 "2017-05-28T07:34:36Z")
I tried the 3k theory ---
**Author:** ![Dianocky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dianocky/32/25396_2.png) [@Dianocky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dianocky)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 7:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/59 "2017-05-28T07:57:29Z")
I have always tried to put out the best four troop defence I could that would get me the most wins.I just figured this was the “correct” way to play the game. After reading the argument for a one troop defence though I think I may just give it a try as it seems to be a better use of my time. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 8:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/60 "2017-05-28T08:21:58Z")
> [@Dianocky](#): > > would get me the most wins At some point you realise that this inevitably leads to RNG devour / deathmark grief defence, as the AI can’t normally win without… and that leaves you the same as everyone else… ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 11:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347/61 "2017-05-28T11:53:15Z")
Well if actually winning defenses is your motivation and not just the highest chance of causing some unavoidable losses(aka GW), you will actually go to any form of Famine team instead as their winrates are significantly above _Devour/Deathmark_ driven teams. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-i-do-the-1-troop-defense-thing-in-pvp/24347.md?page=4)