# Why did I get Valraven in the Vault as a reward? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [April 20, 2018, 9:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372 "2018-04-20T09:16:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 9:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/1 "2018-04-20T09:16:34Z")
Well, it’s even nastier than 2 minor traitstones from a Gnome. Why do I get a totally useless unit in such rare event as the Vault? ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/2 "2018-04-20T09:34:44Z")
This is the only place to get Valraven cards. That was the whole point. You’ve got a rare card that very few people have. And you’re complaining? ---
**Author:** ![AngryMidget](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/angrymidget/32/10478_2.png) [@AngryMidget](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AngryMidget)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/3 "2018-04-20T09:45:43Z")
Not everyone plays the game with the intent on completing their collection. For those people, Valraven is a worthless reward. For me it was also worthless, but as are most of the rewards so it doesn’t bother me 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 9:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/4 "2018-04-20T09:51:48Z")
Valraven isn’t necessarily useless, its Explode Gems is useful for giving Mana to other Troops. It’s a Beast, so starts with 50% Mana if you also have Forest Guardian. If you combine it’s “Fly Away” spell with a summoner eg Giant Spider, then you can get a quick replacement. Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/5 "2018-04-20T12:11:14Z")
Could you imagine a decent team with Valraven? ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/6 "2018-04-20T12:31:55Z")
The AI needs Sigils for the weekly events too, so show a little compassion and play your damn Valraven you monster! ---
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/7 "2018-04-20T12:41:23Z")
And devs need our gems, so they invented Boss Raids and Invasions, yep. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/8 "2018-04-20T14:30:28Z")
Treasure Gnome, Valraven, and Cedric Sparklesack are troops created for diamonds, the people whose primary source of fun comes from collecting things. For everyone else, they’re a bit of a booby prize. C’est la vie. I think it’s clear from the design the devs don’t intend for every Vault visit to be amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Fiara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fiara/32/41273_2.png) [@Fiara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fiara)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/9 "2018-04-20T15:02:03Z")
Wouldn’t it be lovely if we can do the opposite and sell our daily sigils for gems? 😍 ---
**Author:** ![TheDragonSeoul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thedragonseoul/32/17754_2.png) [@TheDragonSeoul](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheDragonSeoul)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/10 "2018-04-20T17:08:45Z")
I would like to commend the forum members for not responding with, “because you touch yourself at night.” 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/11 "2018-04-20T17:14:11Z")
The dodo bird is very useful, actually. It gives your fingers good exercise as you scroll past it on the troop select list while you’re trying to put together a viable team. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/12 "2018-04-20T17:16:09Z")
That one has its own reward and doesn’t involve summoning Valravens. But it’s guaranteed I’ve just inspired a new kink. ---
**Author:** ![Shorm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shorm/32/69118_2.png) [@Shorm](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shorm)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-did-i-get-valraven-in-the-vault-as-a-reward/38372/13 "2021-05-15T16:01:13Z")
Lol… been grinding the vault event for two days now and finally got my first epic vault key… my rewards… 1 gem key, 2 minor stones 5 gems and 4 valraven cards??? Like wtf why would I want 4 raven cards??? Rewards are way better in a normal key. Take this rubbish out of the rewards.