# Why are the champion in Paragon the same person **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [October 24, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705 "2018-10-24T03:53:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/1 "2018-10-24T03:53:40Z")
I don’t want to post a screenshot if it’ll be considered a call-out but against the guild were playing today the champion and the Paragon are the same person. What is going on with that? ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/2 "2018-10-24T04:22:08Z")
That can happen if the Paragon leaves the guild after GW has already started, ---
**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/3 "2018-10-24T05:01:54Z")
They had a full Guild before and after reset. So that’s not the case here. ![15403572877037172146813685973396](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/0/10634509daa3c1375546169e8f9dda6b3919ae3e.jpeg) The Rocks ---
**Author:** ![AlphaNate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alphanate/32/44933_2.png) [@AlphaNate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AlphaNate)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/4 "2018-10-24T12:37:23Z")
Maybe they have the same name and are using the same team? ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/5 "2018-10-24T12:39:38Z")
Or: someone left and they added a new person in between the time intervals when they checked? It’s a possibility. If someone’s leaving amicably it could happen as quickly as 5-10 minutes. Screenshots with guild names go in bug reports. Someone’s going to ask you to remove it lest it become a callout. Bug reports are how you get the devs to check on things. ---
**Author:** ![Live](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/live/32/40596_2.png) [@Live](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Live)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/6 "2018-10-24T13:11:55Z")
And in the time between GW Start and your Screenshot the paragon left and someone else joined. That is the standard behauvior in this case. ---
**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/7 "2018-10-24T18:07:16Z")
@Maczenith this is the thread I created about yesterday’s guild wars. ---
**Author:** ![MrsAffects](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsaffects/32/73668_2.png) [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/8 "2018-10-24T18:13:46Z")
![20181024_000225](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/a/1adda0f2fa80cc42ccaebd193f2fc60dc86b3569.jpeg) No one left their guild. ---
**Author:** ![Maczenith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Maczenith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maczenith)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/9 "2018-10-24T18:19:41Z")
That is strange indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Maczenith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Maczenith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maczenith)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-are-the-champion-in-paragon-the-same-person/47705/10 "2018-10-24T18:21:39Z")
I actually replaced someone after reset, wondering if they were champion…I was started as soldier.