# Who flipped the "F\*\*\* You" switch? **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [July 9, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112 "2017-07-09T05:04:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Salibu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/salibu/32/23083_2.png) [@Salibu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Salibu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/85 "2017-07-11T23:36:23Z")
Vangor what do u play on? ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/86 "2017-07-11T23:39:04Z")
He plays on mobile (high level acct) and PS4 (low level acct). ---
**Author:** ![Salibu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/salibu/32/23083_2.png) [@Salibu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Salibu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/87 "2017-07-11T23:41:28Z")
You made a whole topic on it already. Im surprised your so against complaining when you do it too. Lol Android has nothing bad yet. Ps4 isnt impossible early game. He should join my guild on ps4. We r number 4. He can than do gw. Ill screenshot his losses and he will admit justice is out of hand. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/88 "2017-07-11T23:46:32Z")
He just joined my PS4 guild this week, so he’ll be seeing Bracket 2 guild wars. With a sub-100 level account, I think he’ll have his hands full, though it won’t be quite as bad as Bracket 1. There will be plenty of Justice teams for him to get a taste, but I won’t predict what he’ll think about it. ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/89 "2017-07-12T00:53:41Z")
Unfortunately, no matter what tweaks and changes we make, not every player will be happy. This is the reality of game development, especially in a game such as Gems of War with a quickly growing player base. That being said, we are doing our best to make the gameplay experience as pleasurable as possible for the majority of players. There have been a lot of fixes and changes considered, and we are confident with the ones we will be employing moving forward. Please bear with us while we continue to improve the game. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/90 "2017-07-12T00:54:45Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > Please bare with us Oh, _my._ ---
**Author:** ![Arelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/arelana/32/16081_2.png) [@Arelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Arelana)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/91 "2017-07-12T00:55:03Z")
So I’m not the only one who caught that. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/92 "2017-07-12T00:55:49Z")
Only with you Lyya. 😛 (I literally googled the correct way to spell that, and subconsciously typed it like that anyway. You had one job, brain.) ---
**Author:** ![Strawnyy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/strawnyy/32/30688_2.png) [@Strawnyy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strawnyy)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/93 "2017-07-12T00:57:27Z")
Soooo the Ai isn’t going to be changed back? what about gem spawners? A lot of us aren’t having much fun since you guys messed with Ai and the infinite loops they get and all the extra turns we miss. ---
**Author:** ![Strawnyy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/strawnyy/32/30688_2.png) [@Strawnyy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strawnyy)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 12:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/94 "2017-07-12T00:59:14Z")
I mean a lot of us did have a lot of fun, with being able to actually use Gem spawners, but now it’s too a point where we don’t use them anymore, we’re stuck only using certain troops. And The Ai is waaay outta hand ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/95 "2017-07-12T01:02:20Z")
The AI and RNG will be undergoing more changes. This may include reverting some tweaks. There isn’t anything else I can say regarding this. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/96 "2017-07-12T01:09:18Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > Unfortunately, no matter what tweaks and changes we make, not every player will be happy. Of course, if you continue to propose only one kind of difficulty/AI, it is impossible… As others said before, one solution is to offer the possibility to the players to choose their difficulty (not only a stat bonus…). You already have the interface. But all of these tweaks should not be done on a already released version of the game: it should be done in your developpement team… With beta testers… > [@Saltypatra](#): > > with a quickly growing player base. Where these new players are? Because it’s more and more difficult to recruit… ---
**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/97 "2017-07-12T01:10:37Z")
100% win rate for everyone! All the time! Humans and AI! Winning is the new winning! ---
**Author:** ![Arelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/arelana/32/16081_2.png) [@Arelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Arelana)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/98 "2017-07-12T01:11:10Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > There have been a lot of fixes and changes considered, and we are confident with the ones we will be employing moving forward. I’m keeping positive that I’ll actually be able to use my gem generators again. They’re getting dusty from riding the pine pony. ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/99 "2017-07-12T01:50:05Z")
Maybe they just don’t want to be part of your guild. 😛 There cannot be a changable AI/RNG or difficulty level for ranked PVP and Guild Wars. These need to have the same AI/RNG/difficulty across the board in order to be fair. This is also what a majority of end game players spent their time playing, so your solution offered of introducing more difficulties isn’t relevant for these game modes. On top of that, we already have changeable difficulty settings for the other parts of the game. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/100 "2017-07-12T02:25:11Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > Maybe they just don’t want to be part of your guild. 😛 It’s not an issue with only my guild… You know that… > [@Saltypatra](#): > > There cannot be a changable AI/RNG or difficulty level for ranked PVP and Guild Wars. These need to have the same AI/RNG/difficulty across the board in order to be fair. This is also what a majority of end game players spent their time playing, so your solution offered of introducing more difficulties isn’t relevant for these game modes. On top of that, we already have changeable difficulty settings for the other parts of the game. I agree for GW, it should be the same difficulty. But for PVP, the 3 choices should be Easy, Medium and Hard (which is not the case because of bug, etc.). Depending of this “difficulty” you give more or less trophies to balance the difficulty/reward ratio. So it is possible to give more trophies to the players who choose a fairest RNG for example: more risky so more rewards. ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/101 "2017-07-12T02:31:00Z")
It’s not likely that we will be implementing difficulty levels to ranked PVP. However, who knows what the future will hold. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/102 "2017-07-12T03:44:26Z")
> [@Stan](#): > > There will be plenty of Justice teams for him to get a taste, but I won’t predict what he’ll think about it I had my first gw battles today in a high level guild on ps4 today… Went 2/3… I am not real happy with that but it was to be expected. Out of the 5 fights 3 were against justice league. 2 of those i won and i lost 1. Not to shabby lol… The one i lost was brutal… No other way to say it. I got none of the mana i needed and once justice filled it was lights out. I am not overly upset about it tho because the 2 i won went exactly that way except in reverse… So… Alls fair imo ---
**Author:** ![smilinsam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smilinsam/32/27601_2.png) [@smilinsam](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/smilinsam)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 11:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/103 "2017-07-12T11:30:09Z")
It’s been stated by saltypatra that the game needs to be fair but challenging but the problem with that is that this game is a casual grinding game and not a competitive one. Ranked PVP is a grind not a competitive mode even though it has a leaderboard as last weeks winner completed nearly 3000 battles so at 2 minutes per battle average that is around 14 hours per day of playing PVP every day of the week so how does one compete with that. GW goes a bit towards being competitive but it has divided the community a little bit so I’ll leave that one alone but I think it shows that the game is more a casual one rather than a competitive one. The parts of the game I love the most are getting those gem cascades in my favour and winning battles because it is a grind, it creates a nice feeling which is why I keep playing plus I love the social nature of the game with the guild system. If I keep losing battles to bad luck then the pyschological impact is not good when I am spending a lot of my time grinding but not actually achieving anything. If you want to create a challenge, then a survival mode where highest amount of enemies killed wins each week or a weekly leaderboard for treasure hunt, not base it on how many hours you can put into the game each week. You only need fairness to both AI and player if it isn’t a grinding game but this game is a grinding game so you need to weight it heavily in the players favour or have a completely separate competitive mode that is optional for those who want the challenge. To me that is an easy way of keeping both sets of players happy (casual and competitive) as at the moment I have a 1000+ pc player in my guild ready to quit due to the game not being fun any more purely becuase his losses have sky rocketed and that doesn’t create a nice feeling for him. Fortunately I play on mobile so not a real issue for me at the moment but we will see what happens down the road ---
**Author:** ![Salibu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/salibu/32/23083_2.png) [@Salibu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Salibu)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112/104 "2017-07-12T15:20:32Z")
I appreciate your honesty. Believe me…when you have an 0-5 day…from 5 straight Justice League teams doing what the one did to you. You will become a pitchfork holder with me. lol :-] [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/who-flipped-the-f-you-switch/27112.md?page=6)