# Which faction should I try to max next? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [July 8, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842 "2021-07-08T14:45:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/21 "2021-07-08T16:43:23Z")
yeah, I agree. Which team would you recommend for Sea of Sorrow? ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/22 "2021-07-08T16:46:44Z")
I did sea of sorrows potionless: Hammerclaw/sea witch/king/king. Banner of sorrows. Hoard 177x1.5 Took only 4 tries; 2 of the 3 failures had devour rooms in front of boss room that ended those runs; frankly I should have just used regular non-pure team in those cases, I knew I wouldn’t win 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![terberos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/terberos/32/68944_2.png) [@terberos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/terberos)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/23 "2021-07-08T16:46:44Z")
What is the highest treasure hoard you have in a faction and do you by any chance remember how much gold it cost? I’m poor and making the hoard level hit 100 makes me feel sick… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/24 "2021-07-08T16:48:17Z")
Thanks! So main strategy is to get sea witch going if I understand it correctly? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/25 "2021-07-08T16:49:07Z")
The highest I have is Dark Pits, I needed 300 to max it without potions. But cant remember now how many treasures it took, but a ton. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/26 "2021-07-08T16:51:33Z")
So drained now that 250 req delves is not an option. Need a ton of gold to use the less effective treasures. ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/27 "2021-07-08T16:51:50Z")
I only used sea witch when I did not have other options to avoid skulls or badness. I let hammerclaw and sea witch both fill up, and would use their spells when needed, but focused primarily on deep king for damage. Slightly slower in the best case, but much safer in the worst-case than relying on luck of skyfall or random gem creation spells. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/28 "2021-07-08T16:58:11Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/a/1a86a0cc0490109baccf54b8c1778c7f87665ae4.jpeg) Hmm, lycan… ---
**Author:** ![terberos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/terberos/32/68944_2.png) [@terberos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/terberos)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/29 "2021-07-08T17:07:49Z")
I used my treasures so very stupidly in the beginning, I should have saved them for higher hoards… I think I’ll just do the factions evenly until lyca gems are gone, then I can do more lvl 500 pure runs… ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/30 "2021-07-08T17:08:41Z")
After Sea of Sorrow, I would say Werewoods is your next easiest. I got it first try potionless at 177x1.5 following team (after nearly a MONTH of failing with other configurations) started with bear/bird/torbern/cat; went into final fight with no losses, but bear/bird/torbern/torbern after transforms en-route. Bear has skull reduction himself, and enrage which is nice to cut through enemy skull reduction Then deny brown in the final fight so their torbern never casts, or if he does, keep all fingers and toes crossed that he doesn’t have alignment. Tried many times with bird first, but it’s just too fragile. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/31 "2021-07-08T17:10:52Z")
Thanks for your input. 2nd match in. Low expectations. I hoping to keep Torbern for last match. What is your input on this? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/4/54a4bd280746f3bbe3b8e0b9cf7a9763e13f774c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/32 "2021-07-08T17:12:21Z")
looks promising! I’d probably try to avoid casting torbern before the boss room, he seems like an asset, and it would be a shame for him to transform to a different werewoods troop before the hard fight. (especially since he removes both blue and brown, which are your two most important colors for hammerclaw and deep king) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/33 "2021-07-08T17:18:49Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/3/53f6b31c4577c74b80e53cd0e363a0bab8d9a52d.jpeg) 2nd match, had to use Torbein. drogo charms a random enemy and my sea witch is in danger. Piew he didnt summon into something else. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/34 "2021-07-08T17:26:21Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/4/34dd4e0e043780ea0406f47b69bdee45d205064a.jpeg) 3rd battle. Tips? ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/35 "2021-07-08T17:34:28Z")
that’s a bit of a rough room for 500, especially since denying red and yellow doesn’t benefit you much. Just gotta grind it out and hope for the best. Maybe allow 1st baby dragon to cast its spell, and hope it manablocks troops below it, then grind them all out with deep king, keeping hammerclaw’s armor up when needed. Hope that TDS doesn’t summon on death too ☹ edit: Venbarak, not TDS… that’s a bit trickier, since it has some significant spell damage. probably want to deny blue-purple with priority, which you want anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/36 "2021-07-08T17:35:55Z")
Now I need to be really careful to cast my tiny Sea Witch, so it doesnt crashes and fill up their Venbarak… Perhaps aiming for purple/blue so CPU will struggle to fill up their Venebark as well. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/37 "2021-07-08T17:41:49Z")
oh wait, I have ofc Subemerge that will save me from Venebark… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/38 "2021-07-08T17:43:42Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/b/7b3c6ec731c37b295be429d6013de0f948d1a240.jpeg) oh Lord, Lycantrophy LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Devs check this u better be joking… Hes actually really good. ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/39 "2021-07-08T17:45:53Z")
ooooh nooooo! that’s a major suck. no synergy at all with your other troops, and manablocking deep king on brown to boot ☹ at least charm is a decent ability against high level troops… but I’d almost always rather cast a deep king than bunnicorn. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842/40 "2021-07-08T17:46:27Z")
but his charm is really great up here cuz CPU has so high attack… [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/which-faction-should-i-try-to-max-next/70842.md?page=3)