# Wheres the Epic vault keys **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [August 15, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wheres-the-epic-vault-keys/65470 "2020-08-15T03:38:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 94
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wheres-the-epic-vault-keys/65470/94 "2020-08-18T05:01:29Z")
> [@5.1 Update](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/5-1-update/65392/1): > > Epic Vault Keys are rarer drops compared to the normal ones. (about 10%). > [@Kafka](#): > > We checked the drop rates for the Vault Key and Epic Drop Keys and they were correct. These two quotes cannot both be true. I am well aware that @Saltypatra and @Kafka can only pass on what they’ve been told, but a 10% rate would mean that many more players would have at least one Epic Key by the end of the weekend, and some players would have been lucky and gotten 2 or 3. The coded drop rates might be correctly entered into the code, but something is happening to make the actual drop rates far lower than promised. I can only ask that the devs continue to investigate rather than claiming that things are working as announced when they clearly aren’t. --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wheres-the-epic-vault-keys/65470)._