# Where are the new vault troops?
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [July 19, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059 "2021-07-19T10:51:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@MagiBelgr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MagiBelgr)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 10:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/1 "2021-07-19T10:51:56Z")
This feels like Heart of Rage all over again.
100 vault keys, 17 vault troops and only 1 new card. What, pray tell, is the drop rate of these troops? I’m starting to have my rage build up again…
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### Author:  [@sxesic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sxesic)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 10:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/2 "2021-07-19T10:53:57Z")
I got 1 from 100 keys ☹ 🙂
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### Author:  [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/3 "2021-07-19T11:02:07Z")
Took me 110 keys to get all 4. Lucked in and got The Sun too this morning as well as a power orb 👍
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### Author:  [@alansirer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alansirer)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 11:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/4 "2021-07-19T11:14:19Z")
50 keys for now,1 sun and 25 extra cedric
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### Author:  [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 11:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/5 "2021-07-19T11:19:07Z")
The Cedric drop rate is ridiculous, it clearly is too high
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### Author:  [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 11:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/6 "2021-07-19T11:51:02Z")
60+ keys now, no band gnomes. And I didn’t get to play much during the day that you could chain GAPs
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### Author:  [@Munition809](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Munition809)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/7 "2021-07-19T12:01:03Z")
gnome vault is where you get those new 4 or on the gnome events?
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### Author:  [@alansirer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alansirer)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/8 "2021-07-19T12:21:28Z")
after 230 vault keys
3.000.000 coins
2.000 gems
40 extra cedric
only 1 band (cindi)
the band drop rate is a joke
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### Author:  [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/9 "2021-07-19T12:22:49Z")
The new gnomes only drop as a reward for The Vault (the minigame where you spend vault keys to fight Cedric and 3 X treasure gnomes)
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### Author:  [@scamper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/scamper)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/10 "2021-07-19T12:27:44Z")
196 vault keys. Levelled to mythic with juicy loot.
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### Author:  [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/11 "2021-07-19T13:24:19Z")
i spent 200 ish keys to get them all, but i didnt get any Sun or Heart of Rage or Emperor …
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/12 "2021-07-19T13:33:05Z")
It seems like rarity of a troop doesn’t matter in regards to Epic or Legendary.
The devs just put new troops in the vault. Make it the rarest possible so that folks chase them. Rinse and repeat.
Years of knowledge about the game is now being used as a prey tactic. A false belief that the rarity of the troop applies to the drop chances.
As great as verses are. They probably exist so that they don’t have to try and sell vault keys anymore and get in legal trouble for the loot box that is vaults. The more complicated the system, the more legal room not to get sued or fined.
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### Author:  [@Hawx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hawx)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 1:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/13 "2021-07-19T13:42:29Z")
Myself and a number of players are tracking the drop rates. Currently I’m at 1 in 23 for a band gnome but I expect this to change as we get more data.
If anyone is interested in being part of the data tracking team, we are collecting information on the drop chances in the vault. The more data we have, the better our estimates will be.
Very simple process, click the link, request access to the Google sheet , I will then set you up your own tab and mail you back to say access has been granted. Scroll down to the tab that has your name on it and then enter in the rewards you got from each key.
> **[Vault Rewards](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SCZBj8ZrCblPcF-puuadxEJrYKm9SjIY7UfNMVUfsT4/edit?usp=drivesdk)**
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> Please locate your personal named tab at the bottom of the screen
> You may wish to rename your tab (Right click on the tab and rename)
> Select the difficulty from the drop down menu and then enter in the rewards as shown. Many...
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### Author:  [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/14 "2021-07-19T13:59:01Z")
Getting 10 LEGENDARY Cedrics for every 1 EPIC band gnome is just stupid. I’m up to 6 band gnomes (still chasing Freddi) and 62 Cedrics. Ridiculous.
Imagine if the chaos portals worked like this for genie lamps lol.
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### Author:  [@Qoob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Qoob)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/15 "2021-07-19T15:26:05Z")
I’m personally fine with the drop rates of the new band gnomes (and tarots) given how many more vault keys we’ve been getting with GAP. These are cards I generally only want a few of for collection purposes, so I’d actually prefer their drop rates be kept low so that I can have a greater chance of getting orbs/keys/gems/diamonds instead.
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### Author:  [@Fern](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fern)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/16 "2021-07-19T15:58:36Z")
380 vkeys
3x baz
1x Cindi
2x fredi
4x Hoagi
And 3 power orbs , 13 major Ascension, 26 minor Ascension. Thats enough for another zuul. 😜 🤪
Something wrong here, droprate are fckup bigtime. Thx for a great event 😍
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### Author:  [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/17 "2021-07-19T17:26:56Z")
200 vault keys & 20 Epic keys.
1x Cindi
1x Freti
0x Tarot cards
22 Cedrics.
At least make it so if you have 4 mythic of a troop, it’s out of the drop pool. Like Guild chests
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### Author:  [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/18 "2021-07-19T17:59:18Z")
200 vault + 15 Epic
1x Fredi
1x Cindi
3x Hoagi
1x Baz
1x Emperor
(Still no Heart of Rage - 130 on New Year, 200 now, plus odd keys here and there in between)
Lots of Cedrics.
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### Author:  [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/19 "2021-07-19T19:20:46Z")
135 vault keys and 17 epic vault keys:
31x Cedric… ☹
1x Emperor
2x Heart of Rage
1x Hoagi
No Fredi, Cindi or Baz. These droprates are crazy… 😠
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### Author:  [@Andruwjones](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Andruwjones)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/where-are-the-new-vault-troops/71059/20 "2021-07-19T20:04:34Z")
175 Vault Keys and Found 3.
Baz with key 18.
Cindi with Key 90
Hoagie with key 115
Fredie with key 175
The emperor on key 145
The Sun on key 147
The emperor on key 155
The emperor on key 173
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