# What's going on with PVP battles, I keep getting low teams?
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776
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**Created:** [April 18, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776 "2017-04-18T13:15:12Z")
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### Author:  [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/1 "2017-04-18T13:15:12Z")
I haven’t changed anything on my end, same defense team.
Yet I keep getting opponents on the right that are like 8k team score, where as I normally got opponents there that are over 9.5k team score.
Been playing for over an hour… so if it’s a fluke, it shouldn’t be ☹
Whats going on?
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### Author:  [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/2 "2017-04-18T13:37:45Z")
Check you defense team it might have changed to a weaker one. Mine changes randomly.
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### Author:  [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/3 "2017-04-18T17:46:21Z")
There was a note that they widened the pool of opponents we would see. I too have been seeing some greater variation in team scores I face.
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### Author:  [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/4 "2017-04-18T17:51:20Z")
Here is a quote from a dev that might be relevant:
> [@PvP rankings are a joke](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677/118):
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> You get more PVP points when you defeat armies that are of a significantly higher level than you. This means that higher level players, unfortunately, have a harder time gaining larger amount of PVP points for three trophy battles, even with the multiplier they exclusively get. Once Guild Wars has been released and everything is running smoothly with 3.0 we will be revisiting how PVP points and gold are determined.
I am not sure what your level is, but now that I am over 1050, I have noticed a significant difference in opponent values.
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### Author:  [@captain\_video](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/captain_video)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/5 "2017-04-18T21:51:05Z")
The matchmaking was changed in last week’s patch, it’s in the patch notes. I don’t see any obvious changes to the types of opponents I am facing, but I get significantly less gold and points (for a given team) than I had been getting before, which I don’t understand. Once you’re over level 1000 as I am, there is only so much variety you can expect to see.
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### Author:  [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/6 "2017-04-19T06:59:24Z")
I did pass level 500, do you think that has anything to do with it?
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### Author:  [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/7 "2017-04-19T07:10:05Z")
While we made the opponent pools bigger we haven’t changed the code that calculates PVP points and gold for the past six months.
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### Author:  [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2017, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/8 "2017-04-19T09:39:15Z")
lv500 could be that, unless you changed/left a guild?
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### Author:  [@Mad\_Butch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mad_Butch)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2017, 9:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/9 "2017-04-19T09:57:56Z")
Not me, I’m happy where 'm at 🙂
I didn’t know level had an impact on it… I should try to slow down then 😉
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### Author:  [@captain\_video](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/captain_video)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/whats-going-on-with-pvp-battles-i-keep-getting-low-teams/22776/10 "2017-04-19T22:49:08Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> While we made the opponent pools bigger we haven’t changed the code that calculates PVP points and gold for the past six months.
That’s fine, but by making the opponent pools bigger, you have included players at significantly lower levels and significantly lower power ratings than what I had been used to facing in 3-trophy ranked battles. Result: less gold, fewer PvP points on average, and a longer grind to get to rank 1. And yet I still face the same teams.