# What type of Ladder do we want **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [May 28, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-type-of-ladder-do-we-want/7605 "2016-05-28T22:27:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Larohar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/larohar/32/2685_2.png) [@Larohar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Larohar)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 9:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-type-of-ladder-do-we-want/7605/21 "2016-05-29T09:34:19Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > Also as an aside I wrote in another post about why ELO itself would be a bad idea. While I understand that in this thread people have been talking more about an “ELO-like” system, which if we WERE to use ELO, is what we’d need. I do want to remind people of the main issues of using an ELO system. Not that these can’t be overcome, but the weaknesses of the system do need to be taken into consideration. Your long post in the other thread is what made me think about how to overcome these problems. Before the patch I definitely expected Ranking Points to play a bigger Role in the new System, but you are right - it would not work as it is now. I do believe that there would be ways to make it work though. For example (maybe?) the way I described above. I also want to make sure to say that I love the new PVP. It feels so much better than it was before, at least for me. ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-type-of-ladder-do-we-want/7605/22 "2016-05-29T13:36:01Z")
This sounds very cool, and something typically associated with “Guild Wars” in mobile games. I suspect this will be part of one of the two Guild-focused updates. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-type-of-ladder-do-we-want/7605.md?page=1)