# What is wrong with moa? **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [November 21, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343 "2017-11-21T19:48:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/21 "2017-11-21T21:46:54Z")
Thank you. I just invaded twice, one had a single moa, the other four moas, but perhaps it will indeed increase my chances of finding four-moa teams. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/22 "2017-11-21T21:46:56Z")
Not complicate you get 2 traistone for each moa kills ---
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/23 "2017-11-21T21:47:53Z")
I think that must be one for each moa. Got three with a red team against one, six against four moas. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/24 "2017-11-21T21:48:24Z")
I keep getting 2 traistone for 1 moa ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/25 "2017-11-21T21:51:47Z")
![Emus](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/1/114469a0f50d1c1d71a1bc7ef5024cf05b4f90c3.png) Well, this is just to ilustrate things. But i’m not sure if the devs intended to give us so many traitstones and this could be considered an exploit… Personally, until stated otherwise, i’ll avoid PVP for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/26 "2017-11-21T21:54:30Z")
I don’t see 4 moa team yet but i keep doing pvp, i really don’t need stones i got plenty so i don’t care if they take it back I mean im not running aftet these team but if it is in 3 trophy i will do it ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/27 "2017-11-21T21:57:37Z")
If I understand this correctly, this can only possibly benefit me if I happen to get an arcane or celestial in the same PVP battle where someone has put up 4 Moas in defence (since I already have more minors, majors and runics than I will ever use)? The odds of that are pretty remote, to say the least. Seems like a traitstone bonanza for new players and a momentary oddity for endgamers. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/28 "2017-11-21T22:00:37Z")
> [@Stan](#): > > …a momentary oddity for endgamers. A chance to live The Great Emu War. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/29 "2017-11-21T22:01:19Z")
So should we all be using 4x Musketeer in PVP then? I think we’ve successfully decoded this week’s event… ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/30 "2017-11-21T22:04:57Z")
I’m honestly expecting to read a funny story from @Sirrian for such event. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![nando1881](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e4f/32.png) [@nando1881](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/nando1881)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/31 "2017-11-21T22:16:40Z")
I wonder if they remove completely the arcanes with team that contains 1 or more moas, I`ve spent 2 hours farming teams with 4x moas and not a single arcane drop, never happened before ever. So if you face a team with a moa you get no arcanes. At least for me. ---
**Author:** ![Kbam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@Kbam](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kbam)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/32 "2017-11-21T22:23:01Z")
Just had 3 celestial drop. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/33 "2017-11-21T22:46:23Z")
The odds of an arcane dropping in PVP are only about one in 32 (about 3%), so it wouldn’t be really improbable to get a run of 50 or even 100 matches where you don’t get an arcane. I’m sure someone with a better stats background could determine the probability, but I wouldn’t assume too much just yet. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/34 "2017-11-21T22:47:00Z")
It’s working as intended. It was just released earlier than it was supposed to. Should get official word of it tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/35 "2017-11-21T22:47:35Z")
How do you know this? ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/36 "2017-11-21T22:48:04Z")
Can’t reveal my sources. Sorry. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/37 "2017-11-21T22:49:50Z")
Well _someone_ told me that you smell like pickles. But I can’t say who. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/38 "2017-11-21T22:50:39Z")
Both are sources seem to be knowledgeable then. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/39 "2017-11-21T22:51:08Z")
Just got 2 celestial @stan 😛 ![IMG_8620](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/e/eee4381bfde8d2f58a48f1f80931baa2576054be.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343/40 "2017-11-21T22:54:08Z")
Was that from using an all-red team or was there a Moa on the defender team? If it was from a Moa, it’s interesting that everyone who has posted multiples here has had Celestials and not Arcanes, though. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-wrong-with-moa/33343.md?page=3)