# What is this ? Not sure **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [December 18, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-this-not-sure/34183 "2017-12-18T23:42:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Strawnyy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/strawnyy/32/30688_2.png) [@Strawnyy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strawnyy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-this-not-sure/34183/1 "2017-12-18T23:42:04Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/8/48f89bf3bc579fc8044dd016c2ab3dc3ad91cd3d.jpg) This most be a bug (Yay for more bugs) or some kind of best defense EVER!!! ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-this-not-sure/34183/2 "2017-12-18T23:48:18Z")
I think the casual PVP bug is still in effect. Any time your defense team _loses_ in casual PVP, you get rewarded for a defense win in regular PVP. If this player put up a 4x Firebomb team and then only played casual PVP, I could imagine them getting farmed enough to have that kind of stat-line. Some of us have been complaining about this for months (maybe over a year now?), but it has never been fixed. It just makes no sense that anything that happens in casual should impact ranked stats or rewards. Edit: here is a very similar discussion from 6 months ago. If you read down a bit, you’ll see that the topic was old even then… > [@PvP rankings are a joke](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-rankings-are-a-joke/22677/235): > > That looks like the casual PVP bug. That hasn’t been fixed yet? The thing I don’t get is, with the 1-troop defence bug “fixed”, where’s the advantage in doing casual?