# What is the best/worst kingdom? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [February 13, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705 "2016-02-13T21:28:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![teasel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@teasel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/teasel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/1 "2016-02-13T21:28:12Z")
well we had a “best legendary” thread so how about a best/worst kingdom one? think of type synergy,color avaiable to the kingdom and type of bonus when accounting to it ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/2 "2016-02-13T21:48:29Z")
I think the consensus might come down to Karakoth/Darkstone for the magic bonuses. ---
**Author:** ![teasel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@teasel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/teasel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/3 "2016-02-13T21:57:51Z")
the question wasn’t “which kingdom bonus are better” the question was “which kingdom has the best unit” and “which kingdom has the unit that synergize the better between them in order to get their kingdom/racial bonus?” ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/4 "2016-02-13T22:19:56Z")
My apologies for misreading your question. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/5 "2016-02-14T00:26:50Z")
In that case, Forest of Thorns would be best; Adana would be worst. ---
**Author:** ![Jenda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/da6949/32.png) [@Jenda](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jenda)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/6 "2016-02-14T01:06:16Z")
I would think, given the current Meta Zaejin (Goblin) has to be the strongest by far? ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/7 "2016-02-14T01:33:48Z")
> [@Jenda](#): > > I would think, given the current Meta Zaejin (Goblin) has to be the strongest by far? The problem is that most of Zaejin are marauders that get hard countered by Gob-Chomper. Forest of Thorns is mostly Fey with no hard counter that is commonly used. Elwyn is very weak and Elf Eater is only a partial counter. Forest of Thorns has true damage whereas Zaejin doesn’t. Forest of Thorns has 2 great lead troops both with stoneskin, whereas Zaejin has no good lead. Even Zaejin’s troop with the leader trait is a bad lead troop. Zaejin is also getting nerfed hard with freeze soon, which has little effect on the effectiveness of Forest of Thorns. ---
**Author:** ![Jenda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/da6949/32.png) [@Jenda](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jenda)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/8 "2016-02-14T01:57:39Z")
While all you have stated is true, I don’t see many, if any Forest (Fey) teams in the current high level meta. Conversely, Zaejin (Goblin) teams are plentiful even with the current counters. But vey much agreed that it will change with the coming of the new frozen ability/trait. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/9 "2016-02-14T04:35:09Z")
> [@Jenda](#): > > While all you have stated is true, I don’t see many, if any Forest (Fey) teams in the current high level meta.Conversely, Zaejin (Goblin) teams are plentiful even with the current counters.But vey much agreed that it will change with the coming of the new frozen ability/trait. The main reason is Forest of Thorns needs Gloom Leaf, a legend that hasn’t had its arcane in an event pack yet, fully traited; whereas with Zaejin, it is only 1 common, 1 rare, and 2 ultra rares, 3 of which had their arcane in event allowing low levels too to have the build. I already have my annoying defend team saved for the next patch: Gloom Leaf Ghoul Treant Ice Witch ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/10 "2016-02-14T05:05:36Z")
I already have my annoying defend team saved for the next patch: Gloom Leaf Ghoul Treant Ice Witch This is just evil.😉 ---
**Author:** ![captain\_video](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@captain\_video](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/captain_video)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/11 "2016-02-14T06:04:28Z")
I hate to tell you this, but my home kingdom is Adana, and I routinely eat level 1000s for breakfast. In my team the R/Y mana bonus is worth more than the kingdom team stat bonus. ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-worst-kingdom/3705/12 "2016-02-14T23:26:49Z")
@Shimrra did an extensive analysis of single kingdom teams here: > [@Ease of Making Single Kingdom Teams](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ease-of-making-single-kingdom-teams/2473): > > OK, we know this is basically about Goblins, but I’ll try not to focus on that too much. This is just a quick list of how well kingdoms mesh together on their own right now, based on their troop types and mana colors. And by ‘quick’ I apparently mean 3-4 hours. I was multitasking? Anyway, traits won’t be looked at, because this is more or less based in 1.0.7 when troop types and their bonuses came out. I could have this under ‘feature requests’ rather than ‘guides’, but I’ve already heard that…