# What if players were grateful for the Devs? **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Content\ **Created:** [September 22, 2018, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277 "2018-09-22T06:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![TheDragonSeoul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thedragonseoul/32/17754_2.png) [@TheDragonSeoul](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheDragonSeoul)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/81 "2018-09-25T07:47:40Z")
> [@Slypenslyde](#): > > The purpose of a troll is to… …double the number of gems of a certain color type on the board. 🙃 I’m so Metamucilly. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Presto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@Presto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Presto)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/82 "2018-09-25T10:08:26Z")
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**Author:** ![JonathanStriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathanstriker/32/33065_2.png) [@JonathanStriker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JonathanStriker)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/83 "2018-09-25T11:32:13Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > Best way to show you appreciate the devs is by recommending the game to others. And spending money if you can afford it. I did this back in the day. Pre-3.1 update, I believe. Before the Gem nerf and new UI, I used to recommend this game like crazy. Also, I used to spend all my spare “gaming” money on GoW up until that point. I was a huge supporter of their work. But, for better or worse, the current Gems isn’t _ **that** _ game anymore. Some love and some hate it. Personally, while I’m not out anywhere with a torch and pitchfork, the current Gems is something I feel I can’t recommend or financially support as much, anymore. All that being said, if Gems ever “returns to its roots” and becomes more like the game I used to love again, I’ll happily be there, wallet in hand, cheering it on. > [@awryan](#): > > I’m sure they look at the numbers like I do. Someone complains about GoW but still plays 30+ hours a week. So they probably figure actions speak louder than words. Which can work for and against the player. I wonder if they can see _ **what** _ we play. In line with your “you complain, but still play the game” point, I am one of those people. Now, one might argue “Well, if you don’t like the game, why do you still play it?” Well, the thing is, I don’t dislike _ **all** _ of it. But, a lot of what I complain about on here, if you saw my account activity, you would notice I don’t really play. For example, I don’t like raids, I don’t really play them. I only do the minion rounds so I can collect and throw the rewards back into the guild, like the gold or if I get an orb of clans, but that’s it. Unless it’s a new pet or the one I’m still trying to max out for the achievement, I don’t play Pet Rescue. I don’t like the Delves, I don’t play them. I only do the Quest line for factions, because I like the story. I don’t like GW, I don’t play them, really. Sometimes I do the first battle to get the defense points, but that’s it. My point is, if you were to look at my account, you would see me doing the things I enjoy, like PvP and Weekly Events. Mostly, I ignore what I don’t like. The problem, and the reason why I complain, is a lot of this game has become “what I don’t like” and in the case of Underworld portals, the _ **only** _ place to get some stuff. So, if I don’t like that part of the game, I’m just screwed out of any content attached to it. Lovely. But, yeah, what I’m trying to say is, time isn’t the only factor worth looking at here, it’s also what’s being played. Like I said, if you look at my account and see what I play, and look on here and see what I complain about, you would notice I don’t really play (or hardly play) the things I complain about. I’m pretty consistent in that regard. I’m not complaining about Delves and spending 30 hours a week playing them. Lol. Though, I know there can be a bit of a grey area here. For example, you could hate Raids, spend 30 hours a week playing them, but that’s only because you want to help your Guild or because it’s required by them. Sometimes people have to do things, even if they don’t like them, and I’m sure anyone who hates the place they work, but still needs the paycheck would attest to that point. Haha. > [@Ashasekayi](#): > > > Like I absolutely hate Raids. Yet here I am spending 3-4 hours on it today to help out my guild and score me another Major Orb of Wisdom or Growth. > > You aren’t alone on that one. 😛 It was quite clever of the devs to tie those modes to guilds. Indeed. > [@awryan](#): > > That would entail that a port to the Nintendo Switch is in the works. 😀 Now, this, I would like to see. Also, since Nintendo and Microsoft are so “buddy-buddy” these days, can we get cross platform/account linking there? One of my big complaints about Console Gems is I can’t play on my phone/on the go and can’t collect tributes away from home. If I could also play my Xbox account on the Switch, that would alleviate those issues, as you can take that system on the go, and I would be absolutely ecstatic about it! You guys make a Switch version with that ability and I’ll happily throw money at this game, like I used to. xD > [@TheDragonSeoul](#): > > > The purpose of a troll is to… > > …double the number of gems of a certain color type on the board. 🙃 Lmao. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 12:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/84 "2018-09-25T12:48:32Z")
> [@Gouki](#): > > I’d say that is a quite introllerant opinion. ✨ PHILOSOPHY CORNER ✨ There’s a thing called “the paradox of tolerance” and it’s very relevant to contemporary discourse. For it, we imagine a society that is built on the concept of “tolerance”. Everyone’s idea is allowed to be stated and acted upon, and if you don’t like it you just step aside. Then someone thinks up a weird idea: “I would like to murder people who play Gems of War.” People question it, at first, then the Tolerance Police point out it is intolerant to question the idea. So the person starts murdering Gems of War players. Everyone tolerates it. Now it is indistinguishable from a society that does not tolerate Gems of War. By tolerating the concept “I want to murder Gems of War” players, the society has become complicit with that intolerant view. Thus: to be tolerant, you must be intolerant of ideas _that are intolerant_. And to be ethical within that paradox, you must be sure the ideas you do not tolerate are more harmful than good. 20 years ago I spent 10 years on the same video game forum. We did not have consistent problems with trolls. This is because the moderators did not tolerate trolling and banned them mercilessly. I was on a lot of other forums that didn’t last as long. They let trolls in and didn’t do anything about it. So people moved to better forums, and let the old ones have fun being nothing but trolls. You can see it in modern communities too. Do people here like Twitter? Facebook public timelines? Google Plus? Tumblr? Right. You think they’re garbage, yes? No moderators or absent moderators. What about private Facebook groups? Your clan discord? LINE? Moderated or invite-only. People like strong moderation. So yes, I don’t believe there is any reason to let an unashamed troll dominate threads. I should probably be banned too. ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/85 "2018-09-25T13:49:58Z")
> [@Ashasekayi](#): > > You aren’t alone on that one. 😛 It was quite clever of the devs to tie those modes to guilds. If they hadn’t I would have quit the game, I wasn’t doing guild wars every week for the rest of my Gems of War days… ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/86 "2018-09-25T13:53:06Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > On a more serious note, we have a little slack channel dedicated to the nice things people send us via support, social, global chat and the forums. If we ever need a pick me up, we can have a look at what has been posted recently. We are humans like everyone else, and continued negativity does affect us adversely. However, we are all passionate about Gems of War, and are dedicated to making it the best it can possible be. I feel you are all doing a fantastic job. I look forward to playing everyday, and I look forward to all the new troops and new content. I also really enjoy the preview streams. ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/87 "2018-09-25T13:55:00Z")
> [@Slypenslyde](#): > > I should probably be banned too. I don’t think so, I like a lot of your posts. ---
**Author:** ![TheDragonSeoul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thedragonseoul/32/17754_2.png) [@TheDragonSeoul](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheDragonSeoul)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/88 "2018-09-25T14:57:08Z")
I agree with Zeddicus2017. Many of your contributions/posts provide perspective and insight. And, actually, this is one of the better forums around, too, I feel… 'cause of its members. **_All_** of them. 😉🤡 ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/89 "2018-09-25T16:05:39Z")
> [@JonathanStriker](#): > > Now, this, I would like to see. Also, since Nintendo and Microsoft are so “buddy-buddy” these days, can we get cross platform/account linking there? One of my big complaints about Console Gems is I can’t play on my phone/on the go and can’t collect tributes away from home. If I could also play my Xbox account on the Switch, that would alleviate those issues, as you can take that system on the go, and I would be absolutely ecstatic about it! I believe the only reason that Xbox can’t cross play with PC/Mobile is because of the PS4 users. They would think it’s unfair. The Switch is considered a mobile platform. Much like a tablet. It’s just a Nintendo Tablet, instead of an Amazon, Samsung, or Apple one. I expect to be able to play on my mobile account on the Switch. I do not for see Xbox accounts being played on the Switch. When the Switch first came out I went back and forth for a while with a dev about cross play. It sounds like it would do a lot more harm than good. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/90 "2018-09-25T16:53:12Z")
Yeah on this topic I can confirm it’s all on Sony. MS and Nintendo aren’t really buddy-buddy, they just don’t have specific policies that prevent cross-play between their platforms. Sony has explicitly forbidden it. MS probably can’t _actually_ forbid it. I think the landscape is like this: A company would prefer to not allow cross-platform play. If PS4 users can only play with PS4 users, then it’s likely people who have PS4s will pressure their friends into having PS4s. And even if a good deal comes out for XBO and there’s a great game on it, PS4 users will be loathe to switch over unless all of their friends switch over too, which isn’t very likely. But MS can’t easily forbid cross-platform play. They like it as a selling point that Windows users can play with XBO users. Both Windows and XBO are kind of struggling to attract users so it’s a big deal. So if MS forbid cross-platform play on XBO, they’d want to make a special exception for PC platforms. But MS has been sued several different times for anticompetitive behavior so I’m pretty sure they don’t want to test those waters. And Nintendo doesn’t have a good reason to forbid it, either. While Switch is performing exceptionally well, they are still the third wheel in the console world and much smaller than their competitors. They benefit greatly from “you can keep your PC Fortnite account on the Switch, too!” so you better believe they’re going to keep it. That leaves Sony being the arrogant brute, as usual. They believe the PS4 is so special, you won’t _want_ any other gaming device and you’ll break friendships if people don’t have a PS4. What happens instead is most people have a PS4 _and_ another console _and_ a PC. Which suits Nintendo and MS fine. They still sell hardware, and you’re more likely to get cross-platform games on one of the platforms they support. I don’t foresee a Switch release for similar reasons why we don’t see a Mac release even though it “should be trivial”. It’s another platform, which means more QA and another set of App Store guidelines to wrestle with every release. The QA process for GoW is already obviously tied up so it’s probably not wise to add more to it. A Switch port would be a novelty for me, the app is more convenient on a mobile OS. Since Switch doesn’t have a concept of “backgrounding” a game or multitasking between games, I don’t have much use for GoW on it. I’d rather “more bugfixes” than “a client I start occasionally for fun”. ---
**Author:** ![JonathanStriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathanstriker/32/33065_2.png) [@JonathanStriker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JonathanStriker)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/91 "2018-09-25T17:19:08Z")
Fair points about a Nintendo version, all around. I’m just saying _ **if** _ it worked that way (where you could connect one account and play on both), I would be thrilled. I don’t expect it, I would just be happy/gratful if it happens 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MattDamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mattdamon/32/46579_2.png) [@MattDamon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MattDamon)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/92 "2018-09-25T19:34:01Z")
I read all of this 👼 ---
**Author:** ![MattDamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mattdamon/32/46579_2.png) [@MattDamon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MattDamon)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/93 "2018-09-25T19:34:17Z")
😏 huehuehue ---
**Author:** ![YouCanCallMeFather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/57b2e6/32.png) [@YouCanCallMeFather](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/YouCanCallMeFather)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/94 "2018-09-26T15:29:49Z")
Sony will now be allowing cross play for fortnite. This was announced yesterday. Maybe the devs can shed some light on their pursuit of crossplay. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/95 "2018-09-26T15:32:17Z")
I’m sure they will, eventually, but I think we’ll be more likely to get the answer we want if we let them spend a few days discussing what they should do rather than demand a comment within 6 hours of Sony’s decision. It isn’t even clear yet if Sony is allowing _everyone_ to do cross-play or if this is “just for Fortnite because we’re getting our butts kicked by Nintendo”. ---
**Author:** ![YouCanCallMeFather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/57b2e6/32.png) [@YouCanCallMeFather](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/YouCanCallMeFather)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/96 "2018-09-26T16:25:04Z")
Chill. I’m not demanding anything. When the devs are ready, i’m sure they will say something. Secondly Sony stated that they will be reviewing titles going forward. ---
**Author:** ![MattDamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mattdamon/32/46579_2.png) [@MattDamon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MattDamon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/97 "2018-09-28T19:30:16Z")
Isn’t it spelled Delves? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277.md?page=4)