# What if players were grateful for the Devs?

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277
**Category:** Community Content
**Created:** [September 22, 2018, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277 "2018-09-22T06:58:44Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/41 "2018-09-23T16:46:23Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> I also interact with our player base on all our social accounts, as well as steam and reddit. And that is a huge part of my full time job! It’s time consuming, but also rewarding. I answer questions, pass on feedback and generally talk to our player base. It’s not possible for all of our developers to be as active across all of our channels, or even these forums, as much as I am. They have demanding jobs that require their time and attention, and often work overtime to get them done.

You do an awesome job responding to posts and questions. I see you in a lot of posts, and I know you are doing your best. Some people expect too much, and there’s a saying my mom has on her desk:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/c/cc9092f4f358e980f12bdb4d1051b48939cc4f6f.jpeg)

I think you are awesome, Salty, and I’m not butt kissing, I swear I’m not. I really enjoy the streams and the time you, and the other devs, give us each week.

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### Author: ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/42 "2018-09-23T16:49:37Z")

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> [@Razzagor](#):
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> Well, sometimes changes are needed, like in Wild Plains, this kingdom **REALLY** needs a lot of change…

Lol, I hope you get this in the next twelve months! You are always asking for it, or hinting at it!

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### Author: ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/43 "2018-09-23T16:53:44Z")

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> [@Zeddicus2017](#):
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> Lol, I hope you get this in the next twelve months!

This means twelve months of _fun_ for everyone!!!  
 ![laughCry](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/7/97248803d0bce8ce9d66fd120aa1312be53b6e06.gif)

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### Author: ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/44 "2018-09-23T16:58:38Z")

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> [@Doordash\_Support](#):
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> You guys need a profit, make a Kickstarter, or take Puzzle Quest 3 money. This game isn’t going to survive its pay to win, glitch ridden existence. Your income numbers are probably amazing now, give it a year from now. No way, and its a shame.

I totally disagree with everything you write. You said your girl spent $1,000.00 on cosmetic items in Smite, and walked away…

Any money people put into Gems of War gives them VIP, with decent but not broken or over-powered bonuses. Tacet is VIP 6, he has played for almost 4 years! He does all the content, and pays nothing to do that content. He is careful with his resources, but overall he has no problem playing and enjoying every aspect of the game with zero dollars added to his account.

You are simply out to make the game out to be something it isn’t. You have said in Guild Chat, “I don’t play this piece of sh\*t no more…” For months, and yet you continue to post the same type of responses each time.

Good for you, you do get attention, and you do get likes, so your methods seem to be clicking with some disenchanted people like yourself.

I’m glad strolling the forums tickles your fancy, at least in that way Gems of War is still doing it for you. 😂

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### Author: ![MattDamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mattdamon/32/46579_2.png) [@MattDamon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MattDamon)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/45 "2018-09-23T17:17:43Z")

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So ye all these people saying clever stuff etc.

Dev’s are cool, don’t do drugs kids.

^ Look at me being Einstein. Doing a fine job over here.

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### Author: ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/46 "2018-09-23T18:12:07Z")

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Dude, we’re having a discussion here. What are you even talking about? You talk like you’re from Mars.

Also, are you a real Matt Damon by any chance?

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### Author: ![MattDamon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mattdamon/32/46579_2.png) [@MattDamon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MattDamon)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/47 "2018-09-23T18:35:17Z")

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zorb zeeda nachu tessu comradao

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### Author: ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/48 "2018-09-23T21:45:01Z")

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> [@TimeKnight](#):
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> Also, are you a real Matt Damon by any chance?

Nah, he’s the real Jensen Ackles. 🤣

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### Author: ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/49 "2018-09-24T01:00:20Z")

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OMG @Ashasekayi I laughed so hard I snorted and inhaled my coffee.

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### Author: ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/50 "2018-09-24T01:20:42Z")

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I would be extremely grateful for 3 fixes that would vastly improve this game.

#1. Let me change classes for free. Or better yet let me set a class for each team slot and have it stay as that class.  
#2. Fix the damn chat.  
#3. Having to restart the game every 30 minutes is getting old real fast.

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### Author: ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/51 "2018-09-24T01:29:28Z")

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+1000000000000 to this

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### Author: ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/52 "2018-09-24T01:34:48Z")

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I think #2 and #3 are related to the Unity issue supposedly. Sirrian or 505 needs to escalate the issue with the devs of the Unity Engine to get this sorted out.

A very highlevel long time player was joking talking about quitting over #2 just today.

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### Author: ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/53 "2018-09-24T01:37:18Z")

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Yeah #2 and #3 are related and i am affraid it will take longer than the justice league fix ☹

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### Author: ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/54 "2018-09-24T01:41:10Z")

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Unfortunately it is not easy to escalate issues with Unity. Unity, as an engine and a company, is used for hundreds and thousands of games. They have a lot of things they work to improve, and we have to wait for this to be fixed. At this point in time, we don’t have an estimate of when this will be done.

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### Author: ![GREEK-13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/greek-13/32/5511_2.png) [@GREEK-13](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GREEK-13)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/55 "2018-09-24T01:49:00Z")

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You don’t need dawnbringer to participate in invasions and raids. Mang is one of the most used weapons for these events.

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### Author: ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 9:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/56 "2018-09-24T09:17:49Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> Unfortunately it is not easy to escalate issues with Unity.

Back to Adobe Air then? 😁🤣

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### Author: ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/57 "2018-09-24T12:38:46Z")

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> [@GREEK-13](#):
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> You don’t need dawnbringer to participate in invasions and raids. Mang is one of the most used weapons for these events.

I agree, Mang is my go-to weapon for most events with troops gaining crazy stats as you move forward.

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### Author: ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/58 "2018-09-24T14:05:29Z")

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Honestly I think 4.0 has been the smoothest release since I started playing. The positives are:

- Many frustrating known issues were fixed, and some quality of life improvements were made.
- The Delve event was available _immediately_ and a faction event followed very shortly after: as exhausting as it was it was nice to be able to play with an update’s new toys the same week as release.
- The list of issues got shorter. Sure, some problems from earlier releases remain, but I’m not aware of new heartbreaking issues yet.
- Most of people’s gripes about Delve are “issues by design” rather than “unintended consequences”.

That last one’s the doozy. There are a lot of ways people want Delve to be different. But when Raid/Invasion came out, one major issue was “whoops we calculated the reward tiers wrong and it’s too easy to get everything” along with “whoops sometimes a Valraven replaces the boss and you lose credit”. Those were _bugs_, not designs that were rethought. The things people complain about in Delve are more conscious decisions by the devs that people hope will be changed.

That’s a big difference and has to be noted. Bugs are very disappointing and everyone can agree they have to be addressed. But no matter how an event is designed, someone’s going to want it different, and we rarely unanimously agree on that.

An update is “good”, in this context, when we bicker more about “how I would have designed it” than “why can’t they test this more thoroughly?” I actually feel OK spending $5 here and there on the game again now.

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### Author: ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/59 "2018-09-24T16:41:01Z")

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> [@Doordash\_Support](#):
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> Also, adding cash shops

Where are the cash shops? All I see are gem shop I buy stuff from using the free gems I get from guild tasks, GW rewards, tributes, daily tasks, event gems and all the other ways I get gems for free.

I don’t see the big problem with gem shops I get troops out of them just like I do when I buy chests with gems I also get a weapon, legendary ingots, diamonds, gold, souls and traitstones so we are not just buying sigils it’s more like keys but we know most of what we’re getting.

> [@Doordash\_Support](#):
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> “why is everybody talking about BUYING tiers, BUYING this, BUYING that… I thought it was free to play?”

Buying stuff in this game is not new. Before the gem shops people bought chests and glory troops and occasionally weapons for glory.

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### Author: ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-if-players-were-grateful-for-the-devs/46277/60 "2018-09-24T18:26:04Z")

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> [@Maxx](#):
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> Where are the cash shops? All I see are gem shop I buy stuff from using the free gems I get from guild tasks, GW rewards, tributes, daily tasks, event gems and all the other ways I get gems for free.

Uh huh.

> [@Maxx](#):
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> I don’t see the big problem with gem shops I get troops out of them just like I do when I buy chests with gems I also get a weapon, legendary ingots, diamonds, gold, souls and traitstones so we are not just buying sigils it’s more like keys but we know most of what we’re getting.

I see.

> [@Maxx](#):
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> Buying stuff in this game is not new. Before the gem shops people bought chests and glory troops and occasionally weapons for glory.

Right!

And this is why shady F2P practices will thrive. Luckily, I have plenty of real games to play.

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