# What does "casualty" mean for delves? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [June 11, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126 "2020-06-11T11:58:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gohanman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gohanman/32/62851_2.png) [@gohanman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gohanman)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/1 "2020-06-11T11:58:53Z")
My initial assumption was that completing a delve “without casualties” meant without any troops dying. However, today I completed a delve where no troop died but one was transformed into a mushroom and I did not get credit for completing it without casualties. So what all counts as a casualty? Is it just dying and getting transformed, or are there other things too? ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/2 "2020-06-11T12:07:04Z")
4 starting troops must complete the delve. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/3 "2020-06-11T12:07:53Z")
> [@gohanman](#): > > So what all counts as a casualty? Is it just dying and getting transformed, or are there other things too? To fulfill the “no casualties” condition, you must end the delve with the same four troops you started with. Order doesn’t matter, and it actually doesn’t matter if you lose a troop and finish one of the middle battles then summon the exact same one before the end so long as you finish with the same team you came in with. It is likely _intended_ to be a “no losses” check, but the way it is implemented just means “end with the same team”. ---
**Author:** ![Stix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/edb3f5/32.png) [@Stix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stix)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/4 "2020-06-11T13:10:25Z")
I think there are a few exceptions. Werewoods does allow transformed troops for example I think. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/5 "2020-06-11T13:12:45Z")
Enemy transforming your troops counts as death. You transforming our own troops - through spell effect, for example - does not count as death. ---
**Author:** ![Smash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smash/32/5574_2.png) [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/6 "2020-06-11T13:13:14Z")
You need to end with the same team you started. If a delve has summoning, you can summon the same troop you lost and it counts that way ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/7 "2020-06-11T15:40:42Z")
It doesn’t have to be exactly the same troops for some delves with pure faction runs. For instance, in the last delve, Fell Roost, I started with 1 of every troop (Nocturnia, Fell Dragon, Fell Dragon Egg, and Undead Drake). I completed the delve with one Nocturnia and three Fell Dragon Eggs. I still got the no casualty requirement met though. ---
**Author:** ![gohanman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gohanman/32/62851_2.png) [@gohanman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gohanman)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/8 "2020-06-11T16:24:59Z")
Wow. Surprisingly complicated. It was a non-faction team in this case, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/9 "2020-06-11T16:44:00Z")
It’s simple. Don’t lose a troop, get 30 points. Lose a troop, get 20. Doesn’t matter till level 500 anyways. ---
**Author:** ![HugeOgre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hugeogre/32/72202_2.png) [@HugeOgre](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HugeOgre)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-does-casualty-mean-for-delves/64126/10 "2020-06-12T03:40:45Z")
A troop transform counts as a death.