# What causes a guild to lose points?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [July 31, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312 "2018-07-31T00:50:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lardy-Porker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lardy-porker/32/25588_2.png) [@Lardy-Porker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lardy-Porker)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312/1 "2018-07-31T00:50:10Z")

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About once a month I do a little spreadsheet for my guild that lists the various guilds from a few ranks above us to a few ranks below us.

I record the weekly trophy score for all the guilds, compare it to our own, and calculate who we’re gaining on (and how fast) and who’s gaining on us.

I was performing this task today and ran into something very odd.

A few weeks ago one of the guilds near us ended the week with a negative number of trophies… and not just a small negative number, the guild appears to have lost about 50000 trophies from one week to the next!

**My question: what causes this to happen?**  
I want to make sure that whatever it is, my guild doesn’t do it! 😬

Thanks,  
LP 🐖

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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312/2 "2018-07-31T00:56:15Z")

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They may have had trophies taken away because someone was banned from their guild for botting.

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**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312/3 "2018-07-31T01:42:01Z")

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@Ashasekayi is most likely correct. When a player is banned for botting, any trophies they may have earned are deducted from the guild’s total.

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312/4 "2018-08-02T17:02:19Z")

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> [@RiverSong](#):
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> , any trophies they may have earned are deducted from the guild’s total.

Part of the trophies most of the time.

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**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312/5 "2018-08-02T17:45:52Z")

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Ah. Glad to have confirmation from the voice of experience.

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-causes-a-guild-to-lose-points/43312/6 "2018-08-02T23:23:19Z")

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You are giving me too much credit. I don’t have the experience of your GL. I am just an Excel maniac.