# Welcome to Nimhain's Lair: May 21st **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [May 21, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478 "2017-05-21T14:30:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/224 "2017-05-25T16:43:22Z")
“Be careful what you wish for.” That selection of all 5k PE opponents across the board may be coming to and end with Unity. I’ll be more like 7k, 8.5k, 9.5k. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/225 "2017-05-25T16:53:06Z")
Judging by some really suspicious looking high defense winrates of people sporting the one Elspeth defense, you are probably right that Elspeth needs to be looked at. Other than that, one having to deliberately gimp down their own defense with the distinct purpose to face **WEAK** defenses to ever see a selection like that, i’ll take that post as a fun joke instead of an attempt at actually making a point 😉 ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/226 "2017-05-25T17:14:19Z")
As @Gouki said, you had to go out of your way and artificially manipulate the system to get that setup. I see that all the time when I use a 1-troop defense too. Not at all related to the conversation at hand though, nice try. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/227 "2017-05-25T17:27:23Z")
> [@Strat](#): > > That selection of all 5k PE opponents across the board may be coming to and end with Unity. I don’t understand how moving to Unity will affect the way the game calculates our team scores and the other involved criteria that determines our opponents. Granted, I know nothing about Unity but I’d like to learn how it would change how the game would calculate these things. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/228 "2017-05-25T17:31:31Z")
It looks _ **SUSPICIOUSLY** _ like he’s doing the 1 troop defense shenanigans to alter the opponent pool. That’s been coded out on Unity as far as I can tell. My reasoning is: He’s a high level player getting (3) 5k garbage selections ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/229 "2017-05-25T17:32:12Z")
I don’t think that moving to Unity would necessarily change things, but the existing builds on Unity (PS4 and XB1), don’t respond to putting up a 1-troop defence the way that the PC/mobile version does. I have put up a 1-troop, level 1, defence for as long as a couple weeks, but still get the same 7k, 8k, 9.5k PVP options as I always do, with an occasional easy one during my Monday/Tuesday PVP climb. I would have thought that PVP matchmaking was a server-side issue, but there doesn’t seem to be any question that the 1-troop defence thing doesn’t work for us on console. By extension, it may not work for PC/Mobile once those platforms move to Unity, but I think it’s all just speculation at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/230 "2017-05-25T17:33:14Z")
Oh ok. Thanks for the explanation and the knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/231 "2017-05-25T17:38:54Z")
> [@Stan](#): > > By extension, it may not work for PC/Mobile once those platforms move to Unity, but I think it’s all just speculation at this point Yes very true, that’s why I said “_may_ be coming to and end”. Who knows, the developers might still encourage 33% of PC players to set their defenses set to 1 Troop (based on the latest sample). In probably just a few more months and everyone will know. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/232 "2017-05-25T17:54:36Z")
I’m hoping that the one troop defense sticks around after the move to Unity. I don’t use it myself, but I imagine it helps retain players who are frustrated or bored with the high level meta; and player retention is rarely a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/233 "2017-05-25T18:05:31Z")
That’s fair. I very often get a 1-trophy option of 8500+ points with a couple fully-traited mythics, or a meta Justice team, or a Kerb/FG team. I had one the other day with Gorgotha, Famine, TDS, Famine (all fully traited). And this is supposed to be my ‘easy’ option. If I had the 1-troop defence outlet as an option, I would probably do it sometimes, just for a break. ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/234 "2017-05-25T18:06:09Z")
It does help alleviate the more difficult as well as the long, drawn-out matches that usually happens when we field high-scoring defense teams. I understand that some people really like the challenge that these types of matches offer, but not everyone does and for that reason I’m also hoping that they do not take away the option for us. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/235 "2017-05-25T18:33:55Z")
> [@ZooKeeper](#): > > I see her everywhere I thought PvP stands for Player versus Princess. Player vs Manticore was better, admit it 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/236 "2017-05-25T18:40:22Z")
In all seriousness though… the one-troop thing worries me. Strikes me as ‘gaming the system’. Its a problem both because of the capacity to do that, and because of the apparent _need_ to do that: due to lack of variety or just crazy annoying teams on defense, exacerbated further by Guild Wars. ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 8:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/237 "2017-05-26T08:28:45Z")
> [@ZooKeeper](#): > > I wonder if @Sirrian can give us table of the most used troops like he did before when we were discussing about BD. This is the chart I was asking about. > [@Witches in Britches](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/witches-in-britches/16494/34): > > Here is the graph for defense-troop usage over the last week, broken down into level ranges: This is based on number of battles fought… so if I have Valkyrie on my defense team, and 3 people fight me, it registers 3 instances on the chart ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/238 "2017-05-26T14:59:31Z")
@Nimhain any chance we can get a 2x traitstone event next week? Pretty please?😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 Edit:😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/239 "2017-05-26T15:11:34Z")
I can see her reading that post, going…“Hm, I could do it…but there’s only seven emojis at the end of the post. He probably isn’t fully invested. …Oh – oh wait – there’s _eight_ emojis? Ready the signal fires, we need the 2x Traitstone event, stat!” ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/240 "2017-05-26T15:12:55Z")
I could add more if you think it would help lol ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/241 "2017-05-26T15:50:41Z")
Well it’ll definitely not hurt! ---
**Author:** ![Beowulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beowulf/32/26390_2.png) [@Beowulf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Beowulf)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2017, 6:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/242 "2017-05-28T06:43:36Z")
Now I’m waiting for the new invitation to Nimhain’s Lair ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478/243 "2017-05-29T02:15:17Z")
I can somehow see us regretting that week where we gave you two traitstones to be nice… [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478.md?page=11) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/welcome-to-nimhains-lair-may-21st/24478.md?page=13)