# We want real PVP, not AI! **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [June 16, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681 "2017-06-16T14:55:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/21 "2017-06-17T01:49:44Z")
> [@Amadan](#): > > Asynchronous PVP like we have now still allows most people to win most games, which is fun for everyone. As soon as you have synchronous PVP… The OP was not calling for a change in structure of Gems, you using those terms incorrectly in this context. But I get your point. ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/22 "2017-06-17T02:16:09Z")
> [@Tache](#): > > Please make GOW more like Heartthstone. All my guild agrees this. sounds like an echo chamber effect 🕶 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/8/9801a200bc7b0ee1b49fe3e8e7a3aef1eed27eed.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Tache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tache/32/26393_2.png) [@Tache](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tache)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/23 "2017-06-17T13:50:07Z")
So ? What are you waiting for then ? Hurry up and implement this feature. Instead of spending time and $ releasing new troops and cities which are useless, why don’t you actually do something to make this game better. There are so many games PVP available - I don’t understand why you say it’s too hard to do. Just hire better programmers and get this done. ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/24 "2017-06-17T13:57:21Z")
If you want to sit whilst a real person loops you to nothing for 5 minutes then great. I don’t. Today I came across the crimson bat, sacrifice, Elspeth sacrifice team in guild wars on the ps4. One turn was all the ai needed to perfectly play his team to the last cast of his crimson bat which team wiped me in one go. Impressive and slightly annoying at the same time. I can’t see real pvp work for this game unless it’s unranked or something. We’d also need a virtual coin toss pre match. I’d just like to see improvements to the ai for now. ---
**Author:** ![Tache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tache/32/26393_2.png) [@Tache](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tache)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/25 "2017-06-17T14:01:56Z")
What ? Are you scared ? Why you waste time battle a fake player like Ai ? The game can be improved to prevent infinite loops etc. Easy. I don’t see the point playing a game against predicable ai just to win. What does this achieve ? Nothing ! I feel maybe you are person that needs to win no matter how easy just to feel good, like mommy pat you on the head and say good boy. Without real PVP then this is pointless game. ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/26 "2017-06-17T14:12:33Z")
Yes, you win. You’re one hundred per cent right. Obviously. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/27 "2017-06-17T14:14:57Z")
Just to be clear, I am not a developer for Gems of War, I am a player like you. I am however a developer with experience in the games industry. A feature will be developed if demand outweighs the cost, and the team can translate the investment into revenue (direct monetization, or indirect via sustained interest and incidental purchase drivers). In this instance, demand has not outweighed cost. You can shout about it until the cows come home, but realize your voice is but one of many, and you’ve seen dissent even here, among the most invested players in the game. I would not hold my breath assuming this feature will arrive anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/28 "2017-06-17T14:15:52Z")
So why are you here and why are you playing it? Oh, and whilst we’re dishing out insults, since you started with one… Are you called Hector Edwards? Its just that I’ve worked out what the TAC part of your forum name stands for. Touche ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/29 "2017-06-17T14:17:01Z")
Stop with the excuses and implement real pvp Lyya! ---
**Author:** ![Tache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tache/32/26393_2.png) [@Tache](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tache)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/30 "2017-06-17T14:24:59Z")
You seem slow learner. Implementation of this feature is actually quite easy. This game makes considerable money and has resources to do this. You also fail to notice the agreement this thread has garnered, only a few dissent. Also, you do not factor in a whole new player base that would play this game if it has real PVP. It is not a difficult thing to achieve. And I would also like to point out PV Ai game mode can still exist (no change) as a feature - for example for beginners to the game, amateurs, or those who like easy win. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/31 "2017-06-17T14:37:48Z")
> [@Tache](#): > > You seem slow learner @lyya a slow learner? Hahahahahahahaha!!! That is funny! Do you even realize how ridiculous you are making yourself sound? I doubt it… So run along young one and play with your legos ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/32 "2017-06-17T14:40:10Z")
I don’t get drawn into slanging matches with trolls and i’ve already gone further than I’d prefer. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/34 "2017-06-17T14:42:33Z")
I agree, it’s great to know when to stop! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/35 "2017-06-17T14:46:54Z")
Maybe one of the biggest reasons to not invest in real time PVP: - The one who doesn’t start, losses 90% of the time. - The support center will never be big enough to handle all the tickets about disconnections or other real time PVP related bugs. - The boards that already is filled with negativity will die because of a major depression. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/36 "2017-06-17T14:58:12Z")
> [@Tache](#): > > You also fail to notice the agreement this thread has garnered, only a few dissent. Just because you post an very old, tired, and unoriginal topic doesn’t mean that individuals choosing to not post support you. Edit: Sirrians thoughts on “Real PvP” summed up in a cat gif. > [@Next Big Step....REAL Online Pvs.P](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/next-big-step-real-online-pvs-p/14499/31): > > Real Time PvP [image] ---
**Author:** ![mld-81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mld-81/32/63170_2.png) [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/37 "2017-06-17T15:44:05Z")
No human vs human battles? #firstworldproblems ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/38 "2017-06-17T21:08:07Z")
No, no, no and no. You wanna play Hearthstone, go play Hearthstone. Otherwise sit down and play. ---
**Author:** ![zachraziel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zachraziel/32/3836_2.png) [@zachraziel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/zachraziel)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/39 "2017-06-18T07:01:21Z")
After the cries-of-woe from a few people with the addition of Guild Wars, can you imagine the outcry from real-time PVP? 😄 The only upside I can see is that it would make for very good reading. What was the forum name of the person that kept banging on about ‘real PVP’ as this @Tache person is doing…? Strange that the offender hasn’t piped up here… ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/40 "2017-06-18T07:10:31Z")
His name is: “This user is suspended until Oct 4, 2044 7:07 am. Reason: Excessive Trolling” ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-want-real-pvp-not-ai/25681/41 "2017-06-18T08:12:28Z")
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