# We start with someone else's storm
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [September 5, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209 "2023-09-05T17:17:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/1 "2023-09-05T17:17:47Z")
At the beginning of the battle, my storm changes to the storm of the enemy. Fix this error
PS4
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### Author:  [@gow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gow)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/2 "2023-09-05T17:20:53Z")
It’s not a bug. It has always been like this.
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/3 "2023-09-05T17:22:26Z")
This is a mistake. The logic of the game is broken.
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/4 "2023-09-05T17:23:24Z")
The storm should change after the transition of the move to the enemy.
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### Author:  [@gow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gow)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/5 "2023-09-05T17:26:20Z")
If the storm says at the start of the battle then no.
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### Author:  [@gow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gow)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/6 "2023-09-05T17:26:34Z")
Unless it’s at the start of every turn
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/7 "2023-09-05T17:28:10Z")
Why do I need a storm at the beginning of a turn if it is always canceled by the Elementalist class?
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/8 "2023-09-05T17:31:00Z")
or any other class or unit with a storm called at the beginning of the turn?
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### Author:  [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/9 "2023-09-05T17:42:44Z")
You think maybe we could get a screenshot of the teams in question – yours and AI both – or at least a full description of which troops are present (plus Talents on the Hero or Heroes) before we universally declare this to be a “bug”? Rather than the possibility that there are multiple storms trying to trigger at the same time and the one left at the end is the last storm to have resolved?
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### Author:  [@DAeron](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DAeron)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/10 "2023-09-05T17:46:32Z")
It has always been like this.
When the battle starts your traits activate, then your enemies’ traits. If they have a summon a storm at start trait, it will override yours.
You need to use a “storm at the start of my turn trait” similar to Sunspear class
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/11 "2023-09-05T17:50:23Z")
This is not logical! Why then the Storm skill at the beginning of the battle? She’s just useless now.
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/12 "2023-09-05T17:51:27Z")
I’ll make a screenshot on PS4 and send it
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/13 "2023-09-05T18:09:45Z")
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/14 "2023-09-05T18:10:35Z")
There were no moves yet
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/15 "2023-09-05T18:20:49Z")
The Elementalist with the Brown Storm
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### Author:  [@Ashman](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashman)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/16 "2023-09-05T18:26:30Z")
The storm skill became useless at the beginning of the battle.useless. It is canceled by everyone who is not lazy.
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### Author:  [@DAeron](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DAeron)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/17 "2023-09-05T19:39:45Z")
As i said, thats how this game works.
1. You choose and initiate a fight
2. Battle starts
3. your traits activate
4. enemy traits activate (because you chose the fight)
5. your turn begins
Thats how the game works. Defenders traits activate after yours. You have to learn how to work with the enemy storm or counter it.
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### Author:  [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/18 "2023-09-05T20:19:22Z")
Similar to “empowered”. If there’s an empowered troop on the enemy team, that starts with full mana, you still get the first turn and can win the battle without the enemy having a go.
Even on chess it’s “one after the other” and not “only you have turns” or “everyone at the same time”. There’s rules to follow …
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### Author:  [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)
#### Post date: [September 5, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/19 "2023-09-05T22:04:41Z")
To add to what everyone above me has said?
Another thing to remember along these lines is that traits activate in sequential order by team placement. Meaning if you have multiple “storm at the start of battle” troops in your own team, they’ll activate one after another in the order that your team is set, going first to last.
So the game is going to check each troop in turn from first to last, your team before the enemy team, and activate any “storm at the start of battle” traits. And then when the battle starts and the turn shifts over to you, it’ll check your troops again in that same order for any “storm at the start of a turn” traits that a small number of troops and classes possess.
This isn’t a bug. It’s a mis-understanding of how the system actually works and likely “how it’s meant to work”.
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### Author:  [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2023, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-start-with-someone-elses-storm/81209/20 "2023-09-06T06:07:19Z")
Isn’t there something also about those troops from Sin of Maraj that explode a gem on the board at the beginning of battle? That can somehow negate a storm?
And individual troop storms always override class storms…
And why is none of this explained in the game help docs? There should at least be a hierarchy doc that explains all of this without detailing every possible scenario.
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