# We heard you like Gnomez? **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [February 23, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150 "2018-02-23T02:47:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/182 "2018-02-27T23:17:51Z")
I think everyone is calm i just want to prevent the storm coming this friday if it’s the true 🙂 It’s better to talk about it now and maybe get some input from the dev and MAYBE some correction will be made before the event, then wait when the storm hit us ---
**Author:** ![VenusBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venusblue/32/38243_2.png) [@VenusBlue](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VenusBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/183 "2018-02-27T23:22:45Z")
> [@Ivar](#): > > Again, i expect the Vault Events to be as good as promised, and i hope you and everyone enjoy it. If it’s not… Well… that’ll be a busy Friday and maybe weekend on these forums for us… They promised spawn rates, not better vault rewards. And in another thread the whole “was it really a mistake” issue was discussed so i won’t even get into that. > [@Ivar](#): > > If you and others, can honestly say to me, that at some point in your life having negative expectatives were really helpful while dealing with the exact outcome you predicted, with no excess or decisions you regreted later, then by all means, feel free to stay negative. It’s not negative, it’s realistic based on observations of past behavior. And i’ll take that over blind optimism any day of the week. That’s how you set yourself up for disappointment. Like with reset this week, i didn’t bother to stay up in excited anticipation because looking back on last week and quite a few other weeks there were server issues that would hinder me from playing, and if i did that, i would’ve been upset. Instead i woke up early to check out the new modes, saw there were still server issues, got a chuckle and shrugged thinking “figures, the usual”, and went about my day until i saw on the forums the issues were fixed. Realism with a side of pessimism trumps optimism with a side of naivete. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/184 "2018-02-27T23:26:29Z")
> [@VenusBlue](#): > > Realism with a side of pessimism trumps optimism with a side of naivete. I dare to say: “It depends.” But i won’t bother you about this matter anymore. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/185 "2018-02-27T23:28:27Z")
@ivar if we are right you will be piss but if you are right we will be happy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![VenusBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venusblue/32/38243_2.png) [@VenusBlue](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VenusBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/186 "2018-02-27T23:41:10Z")
> [@Ivar](#): > > I dare to say: “It depends.” But i won’t bother you about this matter anymore. 🙂 Depends on the person, absolutely. Just what’s kept me sane the past 15 years 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/187 "2018-02-27T23:49:15Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > @ivar if we are right you will be piss but if you are right we will be happy 🙂 It’s not about that Ricky… I’ll take what VenusBlue said: > [@VenusBlue](#): > > Realism with a side of pessimism trumps optimism with a side of naivete. If we could grind the entire universe down into atoms we wouldn’t find a single atom of kindness, honesty, love, violence, hate and others… That’s reality, these don’t exist and yet they exist. Paradoxal huh? Why they exist? Because people believe in such things, and believing is the first step to make something real by practicing it. (This is a line of thought based on the Hogfather from Terry Pratchett’s) It’s ok, for me, if you don’t share my optmism, but it’s optmism that drives people into challenging the reality. 🙂 Beware @Sirrian, i’m more optmistic than what you weighs in long tailed chinchilas! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/188 "2018-02-27T23:53:53Z")
@ivar on another note do you know how many damages required for each level? i missed the first ones ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/189 "2018-02-27T23:58:18Z")
Of the Raid Boss i assume. No, i’ll see in my guild if anyone can provide numbers and then i’ll return to you via PM if/when i get some response. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/190 "2018-02-28T02:38:20Z")
bumping any answer would be nice. 1- when you guys nerfed the gnome rewards, did you also nerfed vault rewards? 2-is it true, the vault rewards (during vault event) are better then the vault rewards (outside of event)? please @Saltypatra @Sirrian @Nimhain @Cyrup @Alpheon @GoldPhoenix0 @Kafka @Ozball ---
**Author:** ![Vegan\_Urska](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/97f17d/32.png) [@Vegan\_Urska](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vegan_Urska)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/191 "2018-02-28T03:11:03Z")
I realize the quality of drops had to be lowered, but the current state seems unnecessarily paltry. There was an argument in global about which drop was worse: 100 souls or two minor traitstones? Every online game I have played hosted its fair share of negativity from a portion of players. There’s a lot of folks now whom I never see complain about anything telling chat how disappointed they’ve been with decisions made concerning resources. However, I think making the weekend event worthwhile will shave off a lot of the current resentment. So, like a lot of players, I was rather let down initially with the situation and it’s turbulence, but I would seriously be waves more pleased with the new content if the vault and BH events are baller. Especially if raids and invasions are these obvious gems sinkholes. Anyway, I know this has been said. I just wanted to second the constructive feedback. The core of the game is still a lot of fun otherwise I don’t think we would be so concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/192 "2018-02-28T06:13:32Z")
Bumping again… come on devs yes or no it’s not complicate ---
**Author:** ![VegaDark541](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vegadark541/32/7875_2.png) [@VegaDark541](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VegaDark541)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/193 "2018-02-28T09:39:05Z")
I think you are absolutely right Rickygervais. I think all evidence points to the devs taking the opportunity of increased gnomes to simultaneously decrease the rewards for the vault, even though vault keys appear to be just as rare - the net result is far worse rewards every time we do a treasure vault. In the original system people were getting all sorts of great rewards in the vault and the keys were fairly frequent. If the only things that have changed in the vault event is worse rewards, that means that we shot ourselves in the foot by demanding more frequent gnomes when we would have received far better rewards during the vault event. I am hoping the devs will inform me that I am wrong about this assumption and that rewards during the vault week are the same as they were when the update was initially released. Otherwise, it will be extremely disappointing. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/194 "2018-02-28T10:48:03Z")
Where I think the baseline mentality is mistaken. Is the thinking that the Vault is coded differently then the Gnomes are. The vault is simply one match where you face 3 Gnomes and Cedric. You get the same rewards as you would. If you faced the gnomes in normal matches just times 3. With a special Reward from Killing Cedric. Whether on purpose or not, when the Gnomes were nerfed. The vault also had to be nerfed. Maybe they will recode how it all works. Maybe the won’t. Either way. Souls or Minor Traitstones have no business being awarded for any element involving gnomes. Unless you change the drop rate to 1:10. It’s currently (officially) 1:30 matches. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/195 "2018-02-28T17:14:43Z")
Yes and i assume we are right since i keep asking them and they deliberately not answering. I know they saw the msg i pinged them all and still no answers. I guess they prefer wait when the fire is started to do something. Really dissapointed ---
**Author:** ![DaRkGhost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@DaRkGhost](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DaRkGhost)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/196 "2018-02-28T19:58:32Z")
Never saw a vault key after defeating gnomes i think the droprate is 1/1000, only received 1 at unlock portal in the raid and if finally playing this vault you get again crap rewards, it’s a total rip off crap rewards in raid and vault, it will be like most people say a pay to win game, they will lose allot of players ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/197 "2018-02-28T20:11:11Z")
Normally you should get more vault key during vault event starting this friday The gnome suppose to appear more often With a bigger chance to drop vault key But the problem is lot of persons including me, think we will get the same crap rewards we can get right now in the vault event ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/198 "2018-02-28T21:09:30Z")
Also nobody think it will be limited by some kind of token?? It sound to good to be real, pretty sure there is a limitation crap so you can’t play 24/24 and catch plenty keys ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/199 "2018-02-28T21:20:05Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > pretty sure there is a limitation crap The limitation will be that the event runs for 3 days. They’ll probably adjust the drop rates to be improved but not what I would call plentiful, and the rewards within the vault are going to be what they are now, so this won’t be game breaking. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/200 "2018-02-28T21:40:36Z")
if i don’t get at least 5 vault keys during all the weekend i will be upset and you know i play alot ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150/201 "2018-02-28T21:59:14Z")
Yeah, I’m trying to get everything else out of the way so I can speed-grind explore for Arcanes and gnomes. I’m hoping to get a few vault keys but I don’t know what a reasonable expectation is yet. I’d like to think I’d be happy with anything, but we’ll see. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150.md?page=9) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/we-heard-you-like-gnomez/36150.md?page=11)