# Was there a Secret Nerf to Guardians? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [May 1, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403 "2017-05-01T15:19:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Salibu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/salibu/32/23083_2.png) [@Salibu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Salibu)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403/1 "2017-05-01T15:19:26Z")
Ive noticed the last week that Guardian casts are not resulting in matches like ever. I just played a match and did 11 casts with Justice…all it did was keep changing skulls to blue and blue to skulls… ---
**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403/2 "2017-05-01T17:59:50Z")
I’ve always had mixed luck with my guardian casts. I did go and build a Justice team just to check this out. I played 5 explores 20 casts, it seemed to happen once. Now it probably didn’t actually happen as a swap, I was just watching a small area of the board and probably those couple happened to just randomly swap. ---
**Author:** ![EmsDad15](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emsdad15/32/31654_2.png) [@EmsDad15](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EmsDad15)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403/3 "2017-05-01T18:18:26Z")
The same thing was happening to me last night with my guardian team. Couldn’t win so I switched to another team. No problems. Let the wins commence ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 2:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403/4 "2017-05-02T02:32:55Z")
The only changes we’ve done to Guardians, is the ones we announced in the blog: > [@Snakes and Ladders](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/snakes-and-ladders/23353/1): > > **Balance Chances** > > _Courage_ > Trait Changed: > > - Attack + Life gain reduced from 3 to 2 > > _Loyalty_ > Trait Changed: > > - Armor + Life gain increased from 2 to 3 ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403/5 "2017-05-02T02:41:03Z")
Can you take screenshots of your before/after states? I thought that gem creators would never eliminate the colors they were creating – so Green Slime would never overwrite a green with a green, and Jarl would never overwrite a red/yellow with red/yellow. Is that not actually the case? ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403/6 "2017-05-02T03:26:39Z")
Yeah they can overwrite their own color. I’ve seen it happen otherwise it would be way too easy to loop (even easier than it already is). ---
**Author:** ![Hoop](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hoop/32/34118_2.png) [@Hoop](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hoop)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/was-there-a-secret-nerf-to-guardians/23403/7 "2017-05-02T04:20:55Z")
May be a fluke, but the past week, my guardians are hardly worth using anymore. I feel really lucky if i do get a match 4, when it used to happen a least 1/3 of the time? I even tried again after reading and just seemed like they still didnt work like they used to