# Warlord IV and summoned creature **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [January 22, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119 "2016-01-22T15:06:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![giabetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8491ac/32.png) [@giabetti](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/giabetti)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/1 "2016-01-22T15:06:35Z")
I’m playing Thralls to the wall challenge (5 stars) at warlord IV mode. When the fight begin the thrall has this stat attack 10 life 32 armor 4 during the fight the dark master has summoned another thrall He’s got this stat attack 45 life 144 armor ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/5/509899bb9d2ecc058b87d36773d59ade38151020.jpg) It’s a problem or is normal? ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/2 "2016-01-22T17:36:02Z")
He is the slave that overthrew his slave master. xD ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/3 "2016-01-22T21:35:10Z")
I believe it’s “normal” : Dark Master spells create a Thrall with Thrall’s level scaling with Dark Master’s magic. Since his magic is multiplied by 3 in warlord 4, I guess that Thrall should be somewhere around lvl 36… And has his stats multiplied by 3 too ! Check mate 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/4 "2016-01-22T21:43:42Z")
Looks like the Thrall stats are all 9x what the base is. Any chance you clicked on the Thrall and remember his level? I’m wondering if he’s level 36 with 200% stats, since the Dark Master’s Magic stat would be +200%. ---
**Author:** ![Tard\_Carnival](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tard_carnival/32/609_2.png) [@Tard\_Carnival](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tard_Carnival)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/5 "2016-01-23T02:05:02Z")
That’s extremely odd. When dorkorwhatever came out I Brian boosted his magic extremely high, but the monster maxed out at level 15 stats. ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/6 "2016-01-23T17:37:35Z")
Yeah, I also noticed Doffalkhar’s summon was and IS STILL capped at lvl 15 (tested that like 2 weeks ago). But that might be because Doffalkhar creates a unit that doesn’t exist in unit lists. Making it, yet again, the worst summoning card ever… ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/7 "2016-01-23T17:48:03Z")
Clearly, that new Thrall is named Sparticus. ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/8 "2016-01-24T01:03:39Z")
Summons can never go be level 15 (regardless of magic). How many Thralls did he summon before that Thrall? ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/9 "2016-01-24T02:02:45Z")
Well, I tried it. Indeed, Dark Master’s spell reads that it will summon a Thrall level 15, and the thrall IS level 15. However, he has the stats shown in above picture. (To answer @Nimhain, it was a first summon). By the way, all it’s stats are multiples of 9, meaning he might have stats +800% instead of +200% for some reason. (Magic lvl is 36, meaning he will destroy 40 gems in one spell, scarry !) Still gave him a good beating with my monstrosity of a Green Slime 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/10 "2016-01-24T02:57:23Z")
Cheers! I’ll do some testing internally and see if we can work out what’s happening. ---
**Author:** ![giabetti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8491ac/32.png) [@giabetti](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/giabetti)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/11 "2016-01-25T22:36:25Z")
Thanks All 🙂 The picture show a second summing, the first summing has the same stat ---
**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/warlord-iv-and-summoned-creature/3119/12 "2016-01-25T23:46:53Z")
> [@Zelarith](#): > > I believe it’s “normal” : Dark Master spells create a Thrall with Thrall’s level scaling with Dark Master’s magic. Since his magic is multiplied by 3 in warlord 4, I guess that Thrall should be somewhere around lvl 36… And has his stats multiplied by 3 too ! The stats of the summon should not pick up the bonus, so if it does I consider it a bug. Do your summons pick up bonus from either kingdoms or party?