# Want to get new players to stay and keep old ones? Listen to us: stop pushing pvp. Your players do not want it. Listen to our suggestions **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [July 10, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/want-to-get-new-players-to-stay-and-keep-old-ones-listen-to-us-stop-pushing-pvp-your-players-do-not-want-it-listen-to-our-suggestions/84614 "2024-07-10T13:40:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/want-to-get-new-players-to-stay-and-keep-old-ones-listen-to-us-stop-pushing-pvp-your-players-do-not-want-it-listen-to-our-suggestions/84614/21 "2024-07-14T21:59:57Z")
> [@Dust\_Angel](#): > > Wasn’t it rather that main complaining part was done by chronic complainers who have complained about every single team since the beginning of time and who still complain and who will continue complaining until the heat death of the universe, and probably even quadruple Fire Bomb defense is not safe from them given enough opportunity? I think they already complained about quadruple firebomb. Too boring or something. 🙄 Maybe I dreamt it but I have a memory of the “omg all I ever see is firebomb teams! WAHHHHHH!” - chorus. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/want-to-get-new-players-to-stay-and-keep-old-ones-listen-to-us-stop-pushing-pvp-your-players-do-not-want-it-listen-to-our-suggestions/84614/22 "2024-07-14T23:14:15Z")
> [@Tresk](#): > > I hate the nerf because it led to multiple people in my guild calling it quits. Fair point. I am not in such a situation myself. > [@ANGI](#): > > cartographer was a purple/yellow mystic looper spamming purple, how to successfully pair it with beetrix? Because of that third trait. You Freeze them, they try to loop, they may miss _one_ turn because Frozen but then Beetrix just thaws everybody out, and they still collected the Mana to get another cast. Which is admittedly better than nothing (at least you got a turn yourself)… ---
**Author:** ![Limodepimo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Limodepimo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Limodepimo)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 8:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/want-to-get-new-players-to-stay-and-keep-old-ones-listen-to-us-stop-pushing-pvp-your-players-do-not-want-it-listen-to-our-suggestions/84614/23 "2024-07-19T08:44:49Z")
I don’t want potions in Underspire… Otherwise it is just the same as other events. Also: I like doing PvP. Although I would like a mix of the old PvP and the new PvP, so you can set defense teams and attack the ones who defeated you for revenge. And I want Guild Wars back. With better rewards. And maybe a theme instead or together with the colour theme. Like kingdoms, troops, spell types… ---
**Author:** ![Drazen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drazen/32/99083_2.png) [@Drazen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drazen)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/want-to-get-new-players-to-stay-and-keep-old-ones-listen-to-us-stop-pushing-pvp-your-players-do-not-want-it-listen-to-our-suggestions/84614/24 "2024-07-22T18:40:31Z")
> [@Vold](#): > > The devs just need to stop adding content to Gems of War. Its got so much in it now and the majority of it is basically ignored cause players just don’t have the time to play it. > > Gems has gotten to the point that it feels like we have 3 different games smashed into 1. If you want to do everything in the game, you have to basically play it 24/7 now. And the over-monetization and RNG on everything has gotten way out of hand. > > At this point, I feel the devs have hit the “jump the shark” moment and the game will be dead soon. This. I wrote the same thing in another thread, but this insane amount of content makes me feel like I am going to work when I start GoW. Nobody likes chores, devs. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/want-to-get-new-players-to-stay-and-keep-old-ones-listen-to-us-stop-pushing-pvp-your-players-do-not-want-it-listen-to-our-suggestions/84614.md?page=1)