# VIP level now upgrades all existing troops **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [November 2, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750 "2016-11-02T17:50:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/1 "2016-11-02T17:50:07Z")
I randomly decided to check my soul count today, and happened to notice that troops that were level 1 yesterday are now all level 5? I didn’t put a support ticket in for VIP level or anything. It’s like they all got magically upgraded overnight. @Nimhain @Sirrian Any ideas? Not that i’m complaining or anything. I just really don’t have an answer. These troops have all been Level 1 for months as well. Sort of a random out of the blue time for them to suddenly go to level 5. (To be clear I’m talking about Old troops that I had before being VIP level 5 are now level 5.) ---
**Author:** ![Dustin1280](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dustin1280/32/7970_2.png) [@Dustin1280](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dustin1280)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/2 "2016-11-02T17:55:59Z")
Are you VIP level whatever that allows for all new troops to starter at level 5? I wonder if the devs finally pushed something through that makes it effect all troops instead of just new ones… It certainly makes something to look forward to if they did. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/3 "2016-11-02T17:56:30Z")
Same here, all my level 1 troops magically became level 5. ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/4 "2016-11-02T17:58:38Z")
Yeah I’ve been VIP 5 for months with no changes. Sirrian even told me they don’t do that. Today randomly they’ve been changed. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/5 "2016-11-02T18:00:35Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > Same here, all my level 1 troops magically became level 5. Deja vu. Y’all just copy and pasting PM conversations in to threads now? ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/6 "2016-11-02T18:04:59Z")
Of course because this is public and the other thread isn’t. 😣 ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/7 "2016-11-02T18:33:47Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > > [@htismaqe](#): > > > > Same here, all my level 1 troops magically became level 5. > > Deja vu. Y’all just copy and pasting PM conversations in to threads now? We better not ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/1226188c8bbcb5dfe93ed5d932ac7ff58dc1d4f5.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 12:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/9 "2016-11-03T12:02:52Z")
love them ninja patches 😁 ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/11 "2016-11-03T15:35:10Z")
This is probably caused by an auto update that happened a few days ago. ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/12 "2016-11-03T15:42:58Z")
Yep - that was going to go out in 2.2, but it got pushed out early. VIP now upgrades all existing troops. And before anyone asks, no, unfortunately we are unable to retrospectively give back any souls previously spent by people who missed out, sorry… we just don’t have the data required to figure that out. Half the studio is on vacation this week, so I suspect it was inevitable something like this would slip by without being announced. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/13 "2016-11-03T16:53:57Z")
I still smell conspiracy! ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/e/e5efcde78e0a88fa71d1c87a28e41577ae0b5081.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![VegaDark541](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vegadark541/32/7875_2.png) [@VegaDark541](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VegaDark541)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/14 "2016-11-03T17:00:40Z")
That was added to the list of QoL improvements…glad we can cross that one off the list! Now there’s no good reason to allow players to disenchant the last copy of a troop they have. ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/15 "2016-11-03T17:36:46Z")
Already crossed it off the list too! ---
**Author:** ![Dustin1280](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dustin1280/32/7970_2.png) [@Dustin1280](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dustin1280)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/16 "2016-11-03T19:11:43Z")
This is just awesome, I am so glad you guys did this. Once the PS4 shop starts working for me again (been out of commission for roughly 2 months) I will gladly put some more money into this game. ---
**Author:** ![Athrillskr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Athrillskr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Athrillskr)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/17 "2016-11-03T21:07:59Z")
@Sirrian @Nimhain Are you going to show the console vip members some love as well? We did not receive this even though we have supported the game also. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/18 "2016-11-03T21:47:03Z")
You guys are getting a full ai rework i think before the pc/mobile crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Athrillskr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Athrillskr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Athrillskr)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/19 "2016-11-03T22:26:20Z")
That would be good. Our ai was broken with the last update… Do you have a link to your source? ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/20 "2016-11-03T22:34:22Z")
This was harder to find then you would think. > [@AI rework in the future?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ai-rework-in-the-future/14528/3): > > No AI changes have been released yet on PC/Mobile… I believe a couple of issues were addressed in the console version with the last update though (just based on bug fixes though - no cheating or changes in “luck”). However, we’re currently doing a full AI rework, which (for a change) will be released on CONSOLES first… this includes a reprioritization of how the AI chooses colors to match, along with completely new spell AI that is a lot more selective in both its targeting and timing, AND a fe… ---
**Author:** ![Athrillskr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Athrillskr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Athrillskr)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/21 "2016-11-03T22:54:17Z")
Thanks for the link! I had not heard anything about that. As far as the vip goes I think it is something they can do on their servers without having to get an update approved from Sony and MS. The devs have said they want all versions to be the the same so why not apply this to the consoles as well? ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750/22 "2016-11-04T03:58:41Z")
That change is now also live on consoles. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-level-now-upgrades-all-existing-troops/14750.md?page=2)