# VIP Chest...What do you pull? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\ **Created:** [August 6, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-chest-what-do-you-pull/10799 "2016-08-06T16:45:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 40
**Author:** ![Theicla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/theicla/32/3624_2.png) [@Theicla](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theicla)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-chest-what-do-you-pull/10799/40 "2016-08-08T20:43:14Z")
Never heard Pepper or Spice? Neither did I 'til Wikipedia saith that such cryptographic condiments exist… lol To return to the subject of chests proper: > [@Mr.Strange](#): > > > [@death](#): > > > > Yeah 40 traitstones for me last week and no troops. This week 10 epic wtf. Decided to open another 10 pack. 2 gorgotha 8 emperina. > > > > @Mr.Strange I know you were looking into this. Any new update why this is happening and why no stones are appearing now since you were made aware of it last week? > > I looked into it, could see no reason for it. And nothing changed on our end since then. > > Gremlins? Recap: Last week folks were getting traitstones at high frequency out of the VIP chests, rather than troops. This week I am getting nothing but Runesmith at 100% frequency out of Event chests despite the enticing promise of Gorgotha (I just tried Event chests again today and-- you guessed it-- yet more Runesmith). A month ago, @wargems also reported getting nothing but Berserker ad nauseum: > [@Event chests? Bah humbug!](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/event-chests-bah-humbug/8913): > > Open event chest aaaaaand beserker, beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker and beserker reaches legendary and open event chests Bah humbug aaaaaand beserker beserker beserker beserker beserker and beserker getting closer to mythical beserker Bah humbug wheres the good stuff from event chests? So either this console chest isn’t working correctly, or the troop displayed on the “You can win!” thumbnail is always what you’ll get, all the time, period. And we’ve all wasted an enormous amount of gems to discover this little unfortunate fact. 😵 While we’re pointing out unusual troop drop frequencies, I want to draw attention to the similarity of pulls I was getting from both my console and PC accounts. I have screenshots of Gem chests pulls taken minutes between each other, and they tended to be top heavy in these UR troops: Black Beast \*\*\* Blast Cannon Chimera Flame Cannon Flesh Golem \*\*\* Sacred Guardian Spider Queen \*\*\* War Sphinx \*\*\* These are all from the original release version. That list also changed a bit over time; I used to get a lot of Lamia on console, and now not so much; I’m getting Stone Giant instead. What’s weird for me here is that my first UR cards were 1. Flesh Golem, 2. Black Beast, and my last three URs to appear from the original release were X. Spider Queen, Y. War Sphinx, Z. Blade Dancer. After that… I started getting spammed with Black Beasts and War Sphinxes in my chests. I didn’t think much of it until I noticed I was continually failing to get Centaur Scout (common). What could possibly connect these RNG incidences? Well… Perhaps somehow there’s an alphabetical list bias? Meaning that Black Beast is near the beginning of the list (as is “Berserker” in @wargems’ case) while War Sphinx was right at the end. So too we find Centaur Scout is the _first_ of the common cards in an alphabetical listing of rarity. In the original 1.06 troop display list, Centaur Scout (the _last_ common I received) was also placed in the lineup immediately _before_ Keeper of Souls… which coincidentally was the _first_ Legendary I ever received on console… I realize this is all conjecture, but these coincidences are interesting. I can’t fathom a fair guess for what might even cause this. What, might there be something unusual about the salt value modification, associated with my console account from the start? --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-chest-what-do-you-pull/10799)._