# VIP 4 Level Status: Grants an Automatic feature - (Major) Chaos Orb reveal
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [May 26, 2020, 11:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845 "2020-05-26T11:59:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 11:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/1 "2020-05-26T11:59:59Z")
Greetings, developers!
I know that all Chaos Orbs are already pre-determined before you even claim or reveal them.
So far, the paying players get the following benefits:
- VIP 3: Free Automatic Scouting
- VIP 4: Automatic Chaos Orb Reveal (requested feature)
- VIP 5: VIP Keys to unlock the VIP Chests
- VIP 6: Access to access the VIP Daily Deals
VIP 4 might encourage people, who are frustrated with their Orb Collection count.
I think that adding VIP 4 Level Status that reveals the Orbs is worth it, and it’s not exactly the Pay to Win sort of thing, but it could save you some precious time.
I think that a lot of players would actually find this feature worthwhile, and it will not upset the game balance of the game, so it’s not exactly something controversial in any way.
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### Author:  [@GrannyGems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GrannyGems)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 12:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/2 "2020-05-26T12:02:43Z")
Agree VIP 4 would be encouraging.
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### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/4 "2020-05-26T12:22:14Z")
> [@Koromac](#):
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> I know that all Chaos Orbs are already pre-determined before you even claim or reveal them.
Never heard that before. Also doesn’t sound true 🤔
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/5 "2020-05-26T12:33:21Z")
You get the animation, but what you’ll get is already decided before you claim any Chaos Orb.
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### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/6 "2020-05-26T12:55:46Z")
> [@Koromac](#):
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> You get the animation, but what you’ll get is already decided before you claim any Chaos Orb.
The orb is not decided until you claim the reward from the shop. The reveal animation after you collect it is unnecessary.
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### Author:  [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/7 "2020-05-26T13:10:09Z")
> [@Koromac](#):
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> I know that all Chaos Orbs are already pre-determined before you even claim or reveal them.
> [@Koromac](#):
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> You get the animation, but what you’ll get is already decided before you claim any Chaos Orb.
Those are two totally different things.
> [@UKresistance](#):
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> The orb is not decided until you claim the reward from the shop. The reveal animation after you collect it is unnecessary.
UKresistance is correct. Orbs of Chaos are determined at the point where they are claimed as rewards. The game knows what the result is before the player does, and the reveal animation is purely cosmetic.
If you’re claiming that all Chaos Orbs results are predetermined by the server _before an event that rewards Chaos Orbs event starts_, that opens the door to whole bunch of lawsuits on the matter. **There’s no valid reason why the devs would/should even design Chaos Orbs in this way.**
And that’s before considering the impact on the game server of having to store potential reward results for literally **every** player in the game for **every** event that drops Chaos Orbs on the possibility that each player may earn those Chaos Orbs. That would be bad game design practices, in action.
Paying to reach VIP 4 to save three to five seconds of animation per week? Now, that’s a worse value proposition than opening up my cache of Orbs of Growth prizes each week.
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### Author:  [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/8 "2020-05-26T13:57:23Z")
“reroll a chaos orb” 🙂
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### Author:  [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)
#### Post date: [May 26, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/9 "2020-05-26T20:23:39Z")
Even if it is predetermined, what is the point of knowing it before claiming it? You cannot unclaim an orb for sure.
An alternative would be “increased chances for chaos orb to reveal into clans or ascension” for VIP 4+.
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### Author:  [@Sublime\_Eimar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sublime_Eimar)
#### Post date: [May 27, 2020, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/10 "2020-05-27T22:38:26Z")
I’d like the game to add a “Womp Womp” sound whenever your Orb is revealed to be an Orb of Growth.
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### Author:  [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2020, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/11 "2020-05-28T12:14:14Z")
reroll would be a great advantage.
an even greater advantage would be ‘upgrade orb to the next higher level rarity’.
both will not happen, sadly.
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/12 "2020-05-28T18:03:51Z")
I would actually pay 50 Gems for a reroll. However, it should only be available once.
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### Author:  [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/13 "2020-05-28T19:06:58Z")
Gambling is no fun, only once! Unlimited re-rolls!
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### Author:  [@Koromac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koromac)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2020, 6:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-4-level-status-grants-an-automatic-feature-major-chaos-orb-reveal/63845/14 "2020-06-01T06:56:17Z")
Sure, it could be done. However, the Gem price would have to go up then.