# Vault Troops Drops

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vault-troops-drops/47951
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [October 27, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vault-troops-drops/47951 "2018-10-27T23:59:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 2
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### Author: ![Fiara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fiara/32/41273_2.png) [@Fiara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fiara)
#### Post date: [October 27, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vault-troops-drops/47951/1 "2018-10-27T23:59:51Z")

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Vault keys are already rare and with the increasing number of vault troops can we have 1 vault troop drop as a guarantee?

Aside from Cedric all gnomes are common and they offer little or no combat usefulness or contribute towards a kingdom level.  
Yes, they are trophy troops!

It makes little sense that they have a set drop rate only coming from Cedric’s loot and effectively to ascend one to mythic with no orbs will take 191 copies.

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### Author: ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [October 28, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vault-troops-drops/47951/2 "2018-10-28T00:44:48Z")

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You have to use orbs. Even if you got a guaranteed troop every VK like in your suggestion it would still take 191 VK’s for every gnome minimum.