# \[UPDATED FOR 4.9.0\] Promises - A Future Update Megathread **URL:** \ **Category:** Spoilers\ **Created:** [March 1, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686 "2020-03-01T03:46:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 3:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/1 "2020-03-01T03:46:25Z")
This is a megathread dedicated to the task of tracking all the features the developers have either committed to or rejected, ordered by their dates for potential release, with primary sources for each point. This post will be edited to keep track of changes. **SUBMISSION GUIDELINES** This thread takes user submissions, but the bar for proof here is high; only primary sources will be allowed. This means social media posts, permalinked forum posts, and timestamped links to official streams (there’s a button that lets you link with timestamps). The [Taran’s World](https://www.taransworld.com/) website, which utilizes data from the game’s servers and assets, also qualifies as a primary source, but this thread will not cover specific upcoming troops; most of this discussion should be centered in the [primary Spoiler megathread](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change/1280/8883) The exception to this rule is in the case where a troop will add a new mechanic, such as a new status effect, or stuff that affects the game in some way, such as the addition of a new Gnome. > **OFFICIAL SOURCES** > > - The official Twitter account: [https://twitter.com/gemsofwar](https://twitter.com/gemsofwar) > > - A list of recorded past broadcasts on Twitch: [Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/infinityplustwo/videos) > > - Taran’s World uses data directly from the game: [https://www.taransworld.com/](https://www.taransworld.com/) > > - [Developers on the Forums](https://community.gemsofwar.com/g/Developer?desc=true&order=last_posted_at) > **GENERAL INFORMATION** > > - Game updates generally come approximately every two to three months (i.e. quarterly). > > - Updates usually occur between 1 day and 1 week from the day of the official preview stream. In these preview streams, Saltypatra shows off new changes coming to the game using a beta build of the game. Content shown on these streams may be subject to change. > > - New troop graphics, game features/functionality/mechanics, most client bug fixes, and UI layout changes cannot come without a game update. However, some changes, including buffs/nerfs/changes to existing troops/weapons/hero classes, as well as localization/UI text fixes, can be made on the game’s servers and shipped to all clients without requiring players to head to the App Store to download a new version. > **SOON** > > - An upcoming update is expected to complete the phase-out of the old difficulty system from all modes. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/469245633?t=00h41m39s) > > - When the last new hero class releases in April, a new event will eventually replace it. [Source Needed] > **VERSION 4.9.0** > > - Expected Release Date: Late April to Early May (Must be before May 11th) > > - The 4.9.0 preview stream took place on April 20th, 2020. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/infinityplustwo/video/598130512) > > - The 4.9.0 update is primarily focused on reworking the shop UI and adding new bundles. Note that “not all of it is finalized” so it wasn’t all available to preview. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h6m3s) > > - New packs will be added to the shop, and other packs will be moved around. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h11m38s) > > - A new Daily deal system will be added, featuring 24-hour rotating bundles. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h12m0s) > > - The weekly bundles previously located in the Offers menu, which included a Legendary Troop for $50, will be moving to the Shop view. > > - Adventure Packs are paid bundles which include troops and other resources. As players purchase packs, and as they progress through the game, the packs will change. [Source 1](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h23m58s) [Source 2](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h27m9s) > > - Path to Glory and Path to Power (the 30-day packs) will receive some improvements. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h52m46s) > > - Other unspecified changes to the shop are not finalized, and will be announced with 4.9’s release. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h53m14s) > > - New achievements, names but no descriptions: [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h55m17s) > > - The update will include the option to watch ~30 second advertisements, rewarding Gold, Glory, Souls, rarely Gems, and occasionally Keys, scaling with player level. [Source](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/rewarded-ads-a-break-down-for-the-4-9-update/62644) [Source 2](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h42m18s) > > - Players will now be granted missed sigils if they start a live event already in progress. [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598130512?t=0h56m37s) > > - Leaked game data references an “Elite Pass” and “campaigns.” > **VERSION 5.0.0** > > - Estimated Release Date: July or August > > - 5.0.0 was confirmed to be the next update during the 4.9.0 preview stream. > > - The past several updates have been building towards changes which will be completed in this update. [Source Needed] > > - The content of 5.0.0 was previously confirmed, but this has since changed and we don’t know what to expect. > **MAYBE SOMEDAY, MAYBE...** > > - The game has potential for continued long-term support; the game is still growing, even though it is five years old at this point. “I wanna still be working on it in 20 years! I never want to retire.” [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/469245633?t=00h58m24s) > > - Merchandise: A lot of support for it [Source](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/469245633?t=01h15m48s) [Source 2](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-war-merch-2-0/57181) > > - _DELVES_ > > - _GAME MODES_ > > - _KINGDOMS_ > > - _RESOURCES_ > > - _HERO CLASSES_ > > - _TROOPS AND BALANCE_ > > - _USER INTERFACE_ > **NEVER** > > - _GAMEPLAY_ > > - _CONSOLES_ > > - _TROOPS AND BALANCE_ > > - _HERO CLASSES_ > > - _PETS AND GNOMES_ > > - _EVENTS_ > > - _SOULFORGE_ > > - _WEAPONS_ > > - _LEGENDARY TASKS_ Feel free to discuss these points, as well as link to other statements the devs have made. ---
**Author:** ![EliteMasterEric](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/elitemastereric/32/59948_2.png) [@EliteMasterEric](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EliteMasterEric)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 3:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/2 "2020-03-01T03:51:04Z")
Ooof, finally got this thread up! So yeah, I wanted to make a post where we could keep track of all the things like the Krystara Kolisseum, Duskbringer, merchandise, and “The hero will be able to help you with the faction event in 4.5.0” thing they said 8 months ago. You could call this as much an update spoiler thread as a developer accountability one. There are one or two points that I know they mentioned but need to be sourced, and I know there are several points I missed, and I don’t think the formatting is 100% perfect right now. Any feedback on that front would be greatly appreciated. I’ll try to write down notes on the 4.8.0 preview stream (with Twitch timestamp links) and put them in the thread as appropriate, including and especially any promises for the mid to long-term future that they may make. ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/3 "2020-03-01T04:26:20Z")
Thanks for this excellent accountability thread effort. 🙏 🖖 ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/4 "2020-03-01T04:32:33Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > **SOON** > > Expand… > > - Lyrasza, the Legendary from the Lyrasza’s Lair faction, will add the first example of dual-colored storms to the game. It is unknown whether these storms will be added to abilities which create random storms. already released ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/5 "2020-03-01T04:38:01Z")
Can I get a “Delves” category? Please and thank you. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/6 "2020-03-01T04:43:49Z")
> **[Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/infinityplustwo/clip/YummyLightCobblerPhilosoraptor?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time)** > > Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers. > **[Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/infinityplustwo/clip/IgnorantSuaveCrocodileDatBoi?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time)** > > Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers. Not sure what to do about these, since the responses given when asked months after this stream directly contradict their position here on both issues (official line now is “we want to keep pet gnomes in PvP only so there are different incentives for different modes”, which is a complete 180 from “we want to let it settle for a while, but if it looks like a lot of people are playing a lot more explore instead of PvP (long term), we will **absolutely** put them in there” as is “we don’t ever plan to do this because intended be one of the PvP incentive that keeps it apart” from the previous “a boost to champion xp in explore is coming but not sure when”). To my knowledge, there was never any explanation as to this shift in official position. Its just we got this response on stream about 6 months ago, and got the other response when pressing it on the forums later on. > **[Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/infinityplustwo/clip/RespectfulNicePineappleOSkomodo?filter=clips&range=30d&sort=time)** > > Twitch is the world's leading video platform and community for gamers. This also never happened. Tried bringing it up along with some other tangentially related bugs (every ally instakill and devour was being discussed), kinda got glossed over, not even completely sure if this specifically is considered “not a bug” currently but obviously really low priority if it is. Also, deeds _are_ in soulforge, despite their “no plans” initial response. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/7 "2020-03-01T04:48:51Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > (official line now is “we want to keep pet gnomes in PvP only so there are different incentives for different modes”, Holding Pet Rescues as hostages to keep PvP relevant should read like an oxymoron… But unfortunately… doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 4:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/8 "2020-03-01T04:55:19Z")
Love it!! Can totally understand how long it takes (and must have taken!!) and hard it can be to get something like this posted. Grats and kudos 😌. Perhaps add a little category of “Needs source/confirmation” with regards to > [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > There are one or two points that I know they mentioned but need to be sourced in case someone could help out. I wouldn’t know the Krystara Koliseum point was missing its source until I tried to click on it, for example. Re: formatting, I’d potentially prefer it a bit more like this, with the headings as the expanders (I kind of find “Expand…” a little noisy, visually) and spaces between (most) bullet points: > **OFFICIAL SOURCES** > > - The official Twitter account: [https://twitter.com/gemsofwar](https://twitter.com/gemsofwar) > > - A list of recorded past broadcasts on Twitch: [Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/infinityplustwo/videos) > > - Taran’s World uses data directly from the game: [https://www.taransworld.com/](https://www.taransworld.com/) > > - Developers on the Forums ([full list](https://community.gemsofwar.com/g/Developer?desc=true&order=last_posted_at)) > > 🙂 > **GENERAL INFORMATION** > > - Game updates generally come approximately every two to three months (i.e. quarterly). > > - Updates usually occur between 1 day and 1 week from the day of the official preview stream. In these preview streams, Saltypatra shows off new changes coming to the game using a beta build of the game. Content shown on these streams may be subject to change. > > - New troop graphics, game features/functionality/mechanics, most client bug fixes, and UI layout changes cannot come without a game update. However, some changes, including buffs/nerfs/changes to existing troops/weapons/hero classes, as well as localization/UI text fixes, can be made on the game’s servers and shipped to all clients without requiring players to head to the App Store to download a new version. > > 🤷‍♂️ But those are just some thoughts. Not sure if I have any better ideas than the wombojis, either. I’ll be sure to let you know/send a message if anything else comes to mind. Props, again!! 🙌 ---
**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 6:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/9 "2020-03-01T06:26:12Z")
Fantastic thread! This really gives me hope for the future of the game. There are a lot of cool things in the works; it’s just a shame that the development pipeline is so long and precludes so many QOL fixes. Do you think it’s worth adding a section for changes that the developers have mentioned that they’re actively considering, but are still unsure of? For example: In the “Never” section, you discuss Apocalypse troops and link to a Twitch VOD. A few sentences past that timestamp, Sirrian mentions that he’d consider moving the troops into Sin of Maraj in the future, as he doesn’t like orphaned troops in invisible kingdoms. ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 6:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/10 "2020-03-01T06:31:36Z")
Duskbringer’s true name is Nightfall.😄 ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/11 "2020-03-01T13:07:04Z")
There’s multiple sources for: “We will never add a tier above mythic troops and any disenchants at 4x mythic are safe to do”. But I don’t know where they are specifically. (Not weapons. Though the way they introduced doomed weapons didn’t create the kind of problems the above would have.) ---
**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/12 "2020-03-01T21:01:06Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > The update will be centered around a third world map, to complement Krystara and the Underworld. Just keep adding new maps and the game never dies 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/13 "2020-03-01T22:20:00Z")
Great job @EliteMasterEric. Very insightful but disappointing (on the company part, not yours) in one or two areas. We are now over half way thru delve and even if the proposed hero allowance as a viable faction troop transpires (I forsee restrictions here such as weapon colour restriction or Kingdom restrictions such as permitted class and/or Kingdom weapon only) it is long, long overdue and in no way addresses the exorbitant time commitment these events require. Time will tell. I quite like the idea of the new map; kinda reminds me of parallel universes theory. ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/14 "2020-03-01T23:30:41Z")
Great thread idea and nice work @EliteMasterEric Just one pointed I wanted to clarify on: 5.0 isn’t centred on a third world map (at least not at this stage, we never say never) It was mentioned as a possibility in the future, so it might belong in the someday section? ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/15 "2020-03-02T00:07:36Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > “We will never add a tier above mythic troops and any disenchants at 4x mythic are safe to do”. I interpret this line as “there will never be a rarity above mythic where additional copies of the same troop are needed to ascend that troop to that new rarity”. > [@Shimrra](#): > > (Not weapons. Though the way they introduced doomed weapons didn’t create the kind of problems the above would have.) Doomed is a “sidegrade” to Mythic weapons, as an event-only weapon type. If there was a new rarity level of troop type in the future, like Doomed weapons, there would a completely different system for powering up these troops. There’s all-but-zero chances the devs would allow players to use potentially years’ worth of collected troops to reach a rarity over Mythic automatically. See… every advancement system that has come out over the last two years, at least. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/16 "2020-03-02T00:41:22Z")
Along those lines, I recall talk once of being able to boost traits, such that poison does more than 1 damage a turn, or burn would do more than three. Or allied X gain 2 life gets boosted. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/17 "2020-03-02T02:04:18Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > Along those lines, I recall talk once of being able to boost traits, such that poison does more than 1 damage a turn, or burn would do more than three. I think I remember Sirrian saying that the concept was tested out, but was deemed too powerful of an effect against new accounts. Bleed was likely the reached compromise as a “stronger poison/burn” that ended up making it into the game. ---
**Author:** ![canadademon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@canadademon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/canadademon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/18 "2020-03-02T02:06:15Z")
> [@EliteMasterEric](#): > > There are no plans to put Deeds in the Soulforge. Under the “Never” section currently. I believe this should be removed? ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/19 "2020-03-02T02:22:16Z")
There’s going to be a whole bunch of updates to things posted in the OP in tomorrow’s stream. Also, as a general disclaimer, you might want to say that anything in the Someday column is not guaranteed to ever become a reality at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2020, 2:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686/20 "2020-03-02T02:27:24Z")
> [@Kafka](#): > > 5.0 isn’t centred on a third world map (at least not at this stage, we never say never) > It was mentioned as a possibility in the future, so it might belong in the someday section? I never quite understood the comment Sirrian made about 5.0 having the third map on-stream. The Underworld didn’t occur until the Krystaran map was “full”, and there’s plenty of time still until the Underworld map has a matching Faction to each Kyrstaran Kingdom. Why the rush for the third map? He was quite excited about the possibilities of it though, which might have played a part in that statement being said. 🤷‍♂️ [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/updated-for-4-9-0-promises-a-future-update-megathread/61686.md?page=2)