# Update 7.3 Sneak Peak! **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [December 6, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408 "2023-12-06T17:30:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/63 "2023-12-07T13:25:50Z")
> [@Ash3nShad3](#): > > Also most items have a 2500 VP points requirement, not 10 000. 10 000 is only shown for Dragonite. There are several shop tabs. See the screenshot above, some pets apparently also require 10k points. The video says there are 20 pets on rotation, you only see a small number from a rotating pool each week. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/64 "2023-12-07T14:09:10Z")
> [@Cairnso](#): > > PvP points are gone altogether and replaced with VP points in one battle in the preview video the attacker was awarded 78 VP points for winning and in the second battle 72 VP points. So 10k would require around 125-130 battles in a week. Which adds up to the player with 12k VP points in the global leaderboard shown with 163 battles fought. Two things to keep in mind: 1.) There is a HUGE hidden progression tax in Gems of War. I’d be very surprised if this doesn’t hit the new VP points, just like it hit PVP points. If it still works the same, those 78 VP will be capped at 50 VP for any reasonably progressed player. 2.) Defense losses. If those are gone, good news. If they are still around, they’ll likely have a much higher impact. You’ll get hit more often (due to competitive brackets) and lose more often (due to not being able to set a reasonable defense team). > [@Cairnso](#): > > There’s no need to grind 10k every week either, just do it when you have gold marks to use. Shop offers seem to be rotating each week. You’ll have to grind whenever something you want to spend your gold marks on shows up. I REALLY wonder why this absolutely has to be gated twice. First you have to grind for the currency, then you have to grind again to be temporarily allowed to spend that currency. Word has it the currency is also directly sold for money in the Premium tab, so players who prefer to avoid PvP can still get the exclusive game mode rewards. That’s one heck of a surprise waiting to happen. ---
**Author:** ![eXDe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/exde/32/37398_2.png) [@eXDe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/eXDe)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/65 "2023-12-07T14:20:34Z")
Glory is still coming from pvp battles. They only changed daylie log in glory for those new silvers stars ---
**Author:** ![Aragorn1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@Aragorn1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aragorn1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/66 "2023-12-07T14:28:25Z")
What is happening to Glory Keys? I havent watchd the video yet ---
**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/67 "2023-12-07T14:37:54Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > I really, really hope this was properly taken into account as part of the redesign. History tells me that it’s best to let go of this hope. 👀 ---
**Author:** ![FanosSlapVt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fanosslapvt/32/94963_2.png) [@FanosSlapVt](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/FanosSlapVt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/69 "2023-12-07T14:49:51Z")
Still nothing about new warbands with color combinations we’re missing. rip. Why is this still not fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Xtowers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xtowers/32/6476_2.png) [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/70 "2023-12-07T15:33:31Z")
I’d like to know about any new achievements, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jerry_the_skunk/32/53897_2.png) [@Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jerry_the_skunk)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/71 "2023-12-07T15:50:26Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > 10k PvP points is a lot, likely around 200 battles, possibly more. This is the 2020s. People are not supposed to play games for fun anymore. People are supposed to play games to create “content”. And now we are allowed to create even more of it. _sigh_ Those are the days, I miss playing some simple thrown together stuff in Flash, that has just been put out in the web for fun. But Newsgrounds and co have become scarily messed up in a different way. I’m just too old for the modern internet… ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/73 "2023-12-07T16:25:50Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > I REALLY wonder why this absolutely has to be gated twice. First you have to grind for the currency, then you have to grind again to be temporarily allowed to spend that currency. Word has it the currency is also directly sold for money in the Premium tab, so players who prefer to avoid PvP can still get the exclusive game mode rewards. That’s one heck of a surprise waiting to happen. It’s the PQ3 PvP model. There won’t be enough gold marks to go around, by design. Players are going to see offers for very desirable resources and realize very quickly that they are going to be out of reach on a weekly basis outside of spending money on gold marks. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/e/3e07c7967f68cacd95c7bb371e13d5f3befc5601.jpeg) Unless you are a bracket 1 GW player, do not expect to ever obtain meaningful gold marks from leaderboard placement. It won’t happen. Unless… you start paying to give yourself an advantage… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/3/037b97d3cebb87b31292dd514e16cf31023feb87.jpeg) Also, this system is likely the end of any sort of casual or easy PvP for everyone, permanently. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/7/67b43a137584f402dab68c2c9f8e9c2e54a10262.jpeg) In PQ3, the three opponents chosen for each a fight are chosen as follows: - Left: An opponent equivalent +/- 10% of power to the player’s maximum calculated possible power rating. - Middle: An opponent that is ~10-25% more powerful than the player (if the player is not on top of the leaderboard) - Right: An opponent that is currently in the top positions in your current bracket. End-game players better be prepared for the shock that 1-trophy opponents may very well be 18k+ teamscore opponents permanently. Also, there is the additional time load from all of these battles. 10 Leagues \* X number of battles per league \* daily? (League tokens are use them or lose them daily in PQ3). That’s a lot of extra PvP battles. If so, that is an 60-90 minutes or more daily just to clear these out added to the top of the workload? That’s going to be mighty unpopular for a lot of folks. ---
**Author:** ![Borjay](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/borjay/32/49749_2.png) [@Borjay](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Borjay)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/74 "2023-12-07T16:27:58Z")
@costin82 @Darklord1 @Lucien The only place where Glory has been replaced with something else is on the Daily Login screen. All the other places that previously gave Glory will still do so: PvP Battles, Chests, Tributes, Factions, Tasks, Kingdom Trials. I may have forgotten some other source… ---
**Author:** ![Vorlon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/977dab/32.png) [@Vorlon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vorlon)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/75 "2023-12-07T16:34:46Z")
Promising update, but damn, I’ll have to play pvp outside of tasks and guild wars. I do wish I hadn’t wasted so many dragonite on trying to get 4 of everything. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/76 "2023-12-07T17:06:38Z")
> [@Aragorn1](#): > > What is happening to Glory Keys? I havent watchd the video yet Probably nothing, Glory Keys/Chests are the baseline around which the entire chest system is built. The bigger question is what will be happening to Glory (as a currency/resource) itself? It’s had an intrinsic identity crisis for years. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jerry_the_skunk/32/53897_2.png) [@Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jerry_the_skunk)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/77 "2023-12-07T17:30:06Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > Unless you are a bracket 1 GW player, do not expect to ever obtain meaningful gold marks from leaderboard placement. It won’t happen. So ultimately it turns into a rat race. Not about reaching goal X, but about achieving more than the others, who in turn try to outdo you and each other as well, an unending cycle until people drop out due to collapsing. It’s always nice to see, that developers listen to the player concerns. The topic of player burnout has been mentioned a couple of times this year, and now they adress it. ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/78 "2023-12-07T18:33:52Z")
Can you put something in place where you can’t obtain more than 4 copies of a Dragonite Dragon? There are people with 8 or more copies of a single gem dragon still waiting for the last color to drop, the level of RNG is utterly ridiculous and demoralizing. You did it for Guardians, why not gem dragons? ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/79 "2023-12-07T22:11:29Z")
> [@Emos](#): > > Can you… Make that a “can’t you…” and I agree. Obviously this establishes a hard maximum of 21 attempts to get the full set, but that is already +50% over the expected value (of ~15 eggs) so that should not be considered a problem. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/80 "2023-12-08T17:20:09Z")
Hey, the devs have stated they would correct that issue before the end of this year. So, I’m sure they’ll have something in place in the next 3 weeks… And if you believe that, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jerry_the_skunk/32/53897_2.png) [@Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jerry_the_skunk)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/81 "2023-12-08T17:37:44Z")
> [@HounganAtLarge](#): > > the devs have stated Development does not communicate with mortals. If you believe, that they have spoken to us, you are confused and mistaken. The forum moderation are no wiser than us and as dependent on guesswork. “Official informations” are an illusion. ---
**Author:** ![KINGOLLIE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kingollie/32/74564_2.png) [@KINGOLLIE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KINGOLLIE)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 5:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/82 "2023-12-12T05:39:28Z")
Did everyone notice that the PvP features they are removing like defense team, revenge battles etc… Sirrian says it didn’t make much sense to have them. I wish they would say that about the **Arena Event** , that can go in the rubbish as well 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![icy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/icy/32/71999_2.png) [@icy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/icy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/83 "2023-12-12T10:30:23Z")
> [@KINGOLLIE](#): > > I wish they would say that about the **Arena Event** , that can go in the rubbish as well 🤣 That event is a keeper - enjoy the free weekends whenever arena event is scheduled! And on the other hand, would be easy enough to rework something awesome out of this event - if using more than one braincell. ---
**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408/84 "2023-12-12T13:29:10Z")
> [@KINGOLLIE](#): > > I wish they would say that about the **Arena Event** , that can go in the rubbish as well 🤣 Just remember, whar we have now is the REVAMPED version! 😬 Honestly I do think it would be somewhat more bearable if they simply improved the weekend event rewards for it. I’ve never liked Arena, but it’s an interesting concept, just not worth the time. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-7-3-sneak-peak/82408.md?page=5)