# Update 4.0 Suggestions and feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [September 3, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142 "2018-09-03T06:27:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![WWDiver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wwdiver/32/40338_2.png) [@WWDiver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WWDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/103 "2018-09-05T23:56:21Z")
None since I already have over 7000000, would prefer to receive more gems or diamonds ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/104 "2018-09-06T01:48:01Z")
Thank you everyone for taking the time to leave us feedback and suggestions regarding the 4.0 Update. Keep it coming! ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/105 "2018-09-06T01:49:04Z")
I don’t understand why portals and shards when you could have add a new “Faction Chest” and “Faction keys”… ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/106 "2018-09-06T02:09:36Z")
> [@turintuor](#): > > I don’t understand why portals and shards when you could have add a new “Faction Chest” and “Faction keys”… I suspect it’s because they don’t work like Chests - you can open portals in each faction for just that faction’s troops, so having a separate currency (that new players won’t even see for a while) helps communicate that it’s something different. ---
**Author:** ![peffsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@peffsi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/peffsi)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/107 "2018-09-06T02:11:26Z")
Would it at least be possible to make the cursor move a little faster? It feels sluggish, especially if I want to go from, say, Khaziel to Bright Forest. Even moving between kingdoms that are fairly close, such as Pridelands to Broken Spire, seems like it takes longer than it should. ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/108 "2018-09-06T02:29:13Z")
> [@actreal](#): > > I suspect it’s because they don’t work like Chests - you can open portals in each faction for just that faction’s troops That’s probably one reason. Also the fact that if they make chaos shards a keys, they can’t reward players with half a key (10 chaos shards) like they are doing right now. T^T Although that the same way Guild Seals work, so it’s okay, I think. Just small in quanity, but multiple ways to get them. I just wish it’s more common… ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/109 "2018-09-06T02:31:02Z")
If it dropped 5000 everytime i guess it would be ok, 500 however is a bit pityful. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/110 "2018-09-06T02:35:35Z")
The developers upside world confuses me. Soul Gnome has increased Vault Keys? Remove Souls from Treasure Gnome entirely and give it a big buff for Vault Keys and put in some TREASURE items from the new mode. Put the Souls in the Soul Gnome so there is no confusion when you see him: “you are getting garbage”, obviously also included other items too. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/111 "2018-09-06T02:38:44Z")
> [@turintuor](#): > > I don’t understand why portals and shards when you could have add a new “Faction Chest” and “Faction keys”… No kidding. Or how about “Underworld Keys”… That unlock Underworld troops via the Underworld Chest? ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/112 "2018-09-06T02:46:25Z")
@peffsi this is something I cam happy to pass along. ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/113 "2018-09-06T03:08:32Z")
can treasure maps get a chance to drop shards,treasures etc?or are treasure maps perm shadow banned from ever getting any of the various new resources added to them in any way? xD ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/114 "2018-09-06T03:23:39Z")
Each faction has exactly the same portal with the same color. > [@TimeKnight](#): > > That’s probably one reason. Also the fact that if they make chaos shards a keys, they can’t reward players with half a key (10 chaos shards) like they are doing right now. T^T You could need 20 keys to open 1 underworld/faction chest. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/115 "2018-09-06T03:33:18Z")
Explosion should be differenciate between minor explosion and major explosion like minor/major splash damage: - minor explosion: 100% mana for 1 or 2 gems exploders - major explosion: 50% mana for more than 2 gems exploders ---
**Author:** ![Demonitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonitus/32/7655_2.png) [@Demonitus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Demonitus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/116 "2018-09-06T04:03:36Z")
I remember it was suggested back before 4.0 came out, but did ingots ever get added to VIP chests? I didn’t see anything about it in the patch notes. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/117 "2018-09-06T04:24:19Z")
The economy in the Underworld is (mostly) seperate and distinct from that in Krystara. As such, the devs likely wanted to use different terminology to represent opening chests in the Underworld to avoid potential confusion and misunderstandings. If the devs had called Portals “Underworld Chests”, I could almost guarantee that there would be angry posts on why other Krystaran keys couldn’t be used to open an Underworld “chest”, when players are accustomed to opening all chests with keys of various types. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/118 "2018-09-06T04:25:54Z")
> [@Demonitus](#): > > I remember it was suggested back before 4.0 came out, but did ingots ever get added to VIP chests? I didn’t see anything about it in the patch notes. To the best of my knowledge, I believe the devs stated on a stream that they were not moving forward with adding ignots to VIP Chests. With the ability to acquire Legendary and Mythic ingots from Delves in 4.0, there’s really not much of a reason for them to do that anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Demonitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonitus/32/7655_2.png) [@Demonitus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Demonitus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/119 "2018-09-06T04:35:48Z")
Ah, thanks @Lyrian! That was the one stream I had missed before that you actually had summarized (hence why I didn’t go back to rewatch it). Thanks _again_ for the info! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/120 "2018-09-06T04:39:04Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > To the best of my knowledge, I believe the devs stated on a stream that they were not moving forward with adding ignots to VIP Chests. With the ability to acquire Legendary and Mythic ingots from Delves in 4.0, there’s really not much of a reason for them to do that anymore. Exactly this! We decided not to add ingots to VIP chests due to them becoming more widely available in the Underworld. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/121 "2018-09-06T04:49:47Z")
But Sirrian said that they could add ingots in Guild Chests (the level equivalent to Gem Chests)… No news since… ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/122 "2018-09-06T04:56:48Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > I could almost guarantee that there would be angry posts on why other Krystaran keys couldn’t be used to open an Underworld “chest” Please quote me a player who said that they cannot open a Gem Chest with Glory keys… We already have 5 kinds of keys and there is no issue with that. But you’re telling if another kind of keys is added players are going to be confused? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142.md?page=7)