# Update 4.0 Suggestions and feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [September 3, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142 "2018-09-03T06:27:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Cyrup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cyrup/32/50181_2.png) [@Cyrup](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cyrup)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/1 "2018-09-03T06:27:05Z")
> Please post all feedback and suggestions for **suggestions specific to 4.0** (released September 5th) here. This is **not** a thread for bug reports or help with issues in the game. If you have other feedback/suggestions that aren’t related to Update 4.0 Underworld you can post to the [Feedback/Suggestions](https://community.gemsofwar.com/c/feature-requests) category of the forums. For [known issues](https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/115001569263-Known-Issues-and-bugs) To [report a bug](https://community.gemsofwar.com/c/gems-of-war-report-a-bug) For [Technical Support](https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us) (including missing rewards/game performance issues) - Where possible, a developer comment will be added with a response - If there is a suggestion written in this post under Notable feedback or top suggestions, please avoid reposting the suggestion - You can vote for suggestions you agree on instead. Click on the URL that the suggestion links to and **Like** the post. This helps keep the discussion fresh and collates the top ideas. > **Top suggestions and feedback** > > - **[The explosion nerf was not carefully considered](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/15)** > - **[Moving between Kingdoms on console should be faster](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/46)** > - **Add an option to zoom out further on the map to show the full world -** _This will not be changed. Having the map with a zoom out function means that the black edges of the map show and this is not accepted by some platforms._ > - **Allow console players to move between Kingdoms using the directional pad rather than the joystick** - _This is not possible to continue maintaining with future updates._ > - **[Delve Scrolls should be stackable, but still kept at earning 3 scrolls a day](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/126)**_Currently, this is unlikely to change._ > - **[I can’t find the time to play all the new events and features](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/248)** > - **[If I progress in Delve Difficulty level I can’t increase my Renown as the battles are too difficult with the Faction Team.](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/179)** > - \*_[Trophies should be earned in Delves\*](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/trophies-for-delves/45316)_ > - **[Adjust or remove the 50 Gem Class change cost so it is possible to properlly participate in events](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/276).** > - **[Give us more ways to obtain Orbs of Ascension. They’re impossible to get, especially in live events where we spend the most time](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/281).** > - **[Weekly 24 hour Faction Events are too short. When purchasing extra Sigils I feel forced to use them within a day which is very hard,](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/284)** > **Other notable feedback** > > - [Remove the game slowing down when selecting a Troop to cast the Spell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/82) > - [Change the Mana gained from explosions from 50% to 51%](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/143) > - [Add more variety to the types of Delve rooms that are available](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/174) > - [Delves are very time consuming at higher difficulties](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/90) > - [Increase the offensive stat bonuses from the Hoard Level](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/182) > - [Chaos Shards are great, add Chaos Shards to each Delve Chest, even in small amounts](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/203) > - [Add a controller shortcut on PS4 for the Hero menu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/231) > - [Single Gem mana exploders should receive Mana when casting](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/234) > - [Tier VI of the Crypt Keepers Faction Event has a misleading description for the Weapon Upgrade](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/237) > - [Improve the UI to include a quick way to view possible Kingdom Requirement upgrades](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/249)\* > - [New game-modes should contribute to weekly events rather than just PVP and Explore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/266) ---
**Author:** ![Cyrup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cyrup/32/50181_2.png) [@Cyrup](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cyrup)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/2 "2018-09-05T00:04:23Z")
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**Author:** ![Ghaleon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ghaleon/32/24539_2.png) [@Ghaleon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ghaleon)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/3 "2018-09-05T00:26:04Z")
Fantastic job on the artwork update especially the loading screen. Seriously great job! ---
**Author:** ![Cyrup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cyrup/32/50181_2.png) [@Cyrup](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cyrup)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/4 "2018-09-05T00:26:37Z")
Thank you! I will pass on your comment 😃 I love the load screens too ---
**Author:** ![Ghaleon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ghaleon/32/24539_2.png) [@Ghaleon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ghaleon)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/5 "2018-09-05T00:27:58Z")
I have a lot more feedback coming. This in my opinion is probably the best update to date. The team did an amazing job and deserves a high level of praise the quality is top notch! ---
**Author:** ![Ardnos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ardnos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ardnos)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/6 "2018-09-05T01:25:09Z")
Could we possibly go back to the ability to zoom out? I like being able to see the majority of Krystara on my screen all at once. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/7 "2018-09-05T01:27:34Z")
3 delves per day isin’t enough please give us 5 It starting to be challenging and now need to wait tomorow ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Meteorite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/meteorite/32/39757_2.png) [@Meteorite](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Meteorite)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/8 "2018-09-05T01:35:14Z")
> [@Ardnos](#): > > Could we possibly go back to the ability to zoom out? I like being able to see the majority of Krystara on my screen all at once. 🙂 Yes, this please. Upon loading the game my first instinct was to zoom out, and couldn’t. My thought was that my scrollwheel lost the ability to zoom, and it wasn’t until I accidentally zoomed in even further that I realised that’s as far back as I was going to get, and it made me sad. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/9 "2018-09-05T01:36:16Z")
Liking the “you got mail”. If you could get the old AOL sound featured in the game then I may play with the sound on again. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/10 "2018-09-05T01:47:36Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > 3 delves per day isin’t enough please give us 5 > > It starting to be challenging and now need to wait tomorow ☹ And that’s why Faction Events exist. It’s a long seven days to next Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/11 "2018-09-05T01:49:04Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > Liking the “you got mail”. If you could get the old AOL sound featured in the game then I may play with the sound on again. 😀 Can that come with a voice-over of Salty proclaiming “Rude!” when the You Got Mail pop-up appears? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/12 "2018-09-05T01:49:52Z")
- I would like the zoom back as well. - I seem to be able to move faster on the maps, which is really nice. The map is still not very friendly for colorblind people (I had sent Salty the PM with examples about that like she had asked, though, so I will not get into this further). - I like that split damage is now shown instantly on all hit troops. - I don’t like that the animation of the delve chest getting upgraded takes foreverrrrrr! Basically the most annoying part of Delves. - I’m not a fan of the blocks in Delve in the way they work right now, as they make an exploder mandatory and cripple any loop-team severely, which limits team composition quite heavily. I like the concept, though, but would like different ways to deal with them to make all team styles equally viable. - The exploder nerf is horrible. I really hate it. It’s just too much - before, exploder troops were much better than matching gems normally, now they have become worse than even that, given how easily they hand the enemy some free 4-matches without much gain. Now gem transformers are the way to go, I suppose? Too bad exploders are needed for Delves, as said above… - Delves take a loooong time and I feel like what I get out of it is kinda… uneven, compared to dungeons? The ingots are really, really nice, of course, but I would really like more treasure. I needed 45 minutes for three Delves and got two measly rings out of it. Given how upgrading seems to work (I admit I’m not really understanding that yet), I feel like i’m not really getting a good time-reward-thing right now. - The Worldbreaker buff is…unexpected. He was already a super-powerful troop before and now he’s even better. I’m not complaining, it just seems odd, given how Infernus was recently nerfed. Huh… - I did my Delves with VERY powerful teams and I struggled already, mainly thanks to the blocks and me bringing a looping team. (Forest Troll/Loyalty/Yasmine/Aurora). I don’t even wanna imagine how newbies fare. Sure, unlocking the Underworld is hard enough as it is for a newbie, but still… with less troops available, I feel Delves are a bit too hard for newbies, even on the easiest level. They are a really fun concept, but I feel like even the easiest things are pretty much gated a bit too much these days. - I do like the update, all in all, though - I just don’t think it’s really much for me and my playstyle. The ingot gain is really, really, really generous, though - I got 12 from one Delve and decent amounts from the other two - but I rather want other stuff than ingots…haha… ---
**Author:** ![Zepp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zepp/32/42136_2.png) [@Zepp](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zepp)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/13 "2018-09-05T01:52:57Z")
> [@Sheba](#): > > I don’t like that the animation of the delve chest getting upgraded takes foreverrrrrr! Basically the most annoying part of Delves. This is true. I also didn’t like this part. edit: Wait, no. The part I didn’t like was when the chest opened and the four things came out at the end. That took too long and was a little confusing. ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/14 "2018-09-05T01:54:42Z")
> [@Zepp](#): > > edit: Wait, no. The part I didn’t like was when the chest opened and the four things came out at the end. That took too long and was a little confusing. If you click a whole lot, that part can be skipped after a second or two! But it does need to be a bit into the animation. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/15 "2018-09-05T01:58:19Z")
Exploder nerf… once again an overarching broad stroke nerf with the goal of getting some overperforming troops in line that do too much too well(and will still overperform), that obliterates all single gem exploders or sensibly designed multi/mass exploders that were already super niche and underperforming and now are just utter trash. ---
**Author:** ![AlchemicalSnypr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alchemicalsnypr/32/37154_2.png) [@AlchemicalSnypr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AlchemicalSnypr)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/16 "2018-09-05T02:07:19Z")
Undo the exploder nerf or there will be riots. I already have my pitchfork. Seriously, we need some way to play fast and loose and exploders are it, they are not tactical, they are built for speed and luck. I can’t spend my entire day playing this game and since the divine nerf exploders were my next substitute, now I dont see why I play. You just keep ruining all the cool things with these nerfs. I hated goblins but I didn’t want them nerfed, I hated Ubastet, but I didn’t want him nerfed, I hated when tds res’d 8 times, but I didn’t want him nerfed…because that’s what made me want those troops, that’s what made me grind to craft them or get enough keys to try and get them. Everytime you nerf, a rainbow loses its colors. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/17 "2018-09-05T02:17:14Z")
@Cyrup I can’t unlock traits, says to contact you. ![Screenshot_20180904-211441](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/4/54d8628e06e0ba08b244459f40f9dd9c14e58ba1.jpeg) ![Screenshot_20180904-211644](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/b/eb06432e7e44ca8a8b900844d955ea05bffd53ad.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/18 "2018-09-05T02:21:29Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > And that’s why Faction Events exist. It’s a long seven days to next Tuesday. you sure there is 0 limit?? i can play 24/24 without restriction? ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/19 "2018-09-05T02:22:05Z")
Using souls to increase the level of these treasures is really funny in a useless way… 🤣 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/1/c123b619a90cf2bcb7bd699912803a9121205c28.jpeg) Also we can use them to fight? What the heck? 🤣🤣🤣 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/1/b1c97857feb506e206cc900368652bbec786ade2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142/20 "2018-09-05T02:23:26Z")
oh i get it it’s a troop when can use it for battle? i thought it was only a treasure [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/update-4-0-suggestions-and-feedback/45142.md?page=2)