# Upcoming weekend **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [September 21, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884 "2021-09-21T20:28:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/21 "2021-09-25T02:46:11Z")
PC/Steam (10 char). ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/22 "2021-09-25T02:50:47Z")
Same as me, I have bad luck as usual finding the verses I need to start a GaP… ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/23 "2021-09-25T07:11:19Z")
Day 1 haul: 624 vk, 67 evk, 59 pity keys. Total of 750 from 18 hrs farming. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/24 "2021-09-25T07:52:06Z")
You are maybe in the 1 % with those numbers. Just important to mention it in case the Devs jumps on the nerfing gun again. ---
**Author:** ![Potemkinz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/potemkinz/32/74067_2.png) [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/25 "2021-09-25T10:30:39Z")
i experienced the same thing, i think key drop rate is nerfed on both vk and evk during palooza ---
**Author:** ![Qoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Qoob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Qoob)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/26 "2021-09-25T12:14:58Z")
I don’t think it has ever been stated that vault keys drop at a 10% chance, so what your results show is not evidence of a nerf, but evidence in support of the vault key drop rate being lower than 10%. This is consistent with what the rate has been in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/27 "2021-09-25T12:21:24Z")
What @Qoob says. It has been stated that epic keys should be 10% of all vault keys; nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Skynet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/skynet/32/71060_2.png) [@Skynet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skynet)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/28 "2021-09-25T15:31:15Z")
I posted this elsewhere but posting here too since relevant. My data so far (for this event): - total number of gnomes: 8144 - keys: 567 =\> 6.96% - epic keys: 76 =\> 0.93% That being said, before running a 5-hour non-stop GaP, my epic key rate was closer to 0.7%, so take that part with a grain of salt. To me it feels like, key drop rate is 7% and epic key drop rate is 0.7% (which is 10% of the key drop, which is consistent with @Dust_Angel’s latest post). ---
**Author:** ![Qoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Qoob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Qoob)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/29 "2021-09-25T15:52:06Z")
Did you subtract off all band gnomes encountered? Otherwise, this would be an underestimate of the vault key drop chance, since band gnomes cannot drop vault keys. ---
**Author:** ![Skynet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/skynet/32/71060_2.png) [@Skynet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skynet)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/30 "2021-09-25T16:21:00Z")
Very good point and no, I did not. But I know how many verses I got, so I can adjust the computation. Thanks for reminding. I did subtract the pity keys though, so at least that is taken care of. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/31 "2021-09-25T16:21:57Z")
ur at PC/Mobile, Fleg at console and crushed your statistic. So something is off here. ---
**Author:** ![Skynet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/skynet/32/71060_2.png) [@Skynet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skynet)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/32 "2021-09-25T23:38:51Z")
Updated the data and accounted for music gnomes. - total number of gnomes: 8285, music gnomes: 374 - keys: 575 =\> 7.27% - epic keys: 76 =\> 0.96% Will do more GaP later on (I hope) and keep updating. @Qoob ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/33 "2021-09-26T07:53:53Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > Day 1 haul: 624 vk, 67 evk, 59 pity keys. > Total of 750 from 18 hrs farming. Day 2 haul: 365 vk, 28 evk, 15 pity keys. Total of 408 from 12 hrs farming. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 8:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/34 "2021-09-26T08:10:55Z")
Now u can relax and enjoy rest of the weekend without playing. 🙇‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 10:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/35 "2021-09-26T10:47:56Z")
The value of vault keys is different to what it was pre Tarot cards. That’s because you can spend hundreds and miss targets. 750 VK - still missing a band member. Someone I know, over 900 etc. So many cards with circa 1-2% chance. The value of a VK is no longer the same. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/36 "2021-09-26T21:37:18Z")
That’s how they punish players for not paying to get the elite campaign pass. They know it’s near impossible to get a tarot drop, so it’s working as intended. ---
**Author:** ![Skynet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/skynet/32/71060_2.png) [@Skynet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skynet)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/37 "2021-09-26T21:49:56Z")
I never expected the drop rate for tarot cards to be high, but especially in time, this will be a bigger problem in the future since there will be more and more in the pool. This will turn similar to “rolling a specific mythic from gem keys”, which is close to impossible nowadays. At the beginning, it was only heart of rage that you would get as “rare” from the vault, but nowadays, we have, heart of rage, the sun, the moon, and the emperor (I might be missing 🙂 ). I think every Champaign will continue to add another one, which will make the pool larger and larger. I wonder if we will have some rotations in the vault e.g., similar to rotations with weekly kingdoms to increase the chances of getting a particular card e.g., a tarot. I guess we will only see in time. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/38 "2021-09-26T21:54:02Z")
The Star will show up in the campaign in two weeks. I think after the campaign, it will be added to the pool. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884/39 "2021-09-27T07:11:24Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > Day 1 haul: 624 vk, 67 evk, 59 pity keys. > Total of 750 from 18 hrs farming. > [@Fleg](#): > > Day 2 haul: 365 vk, 28 evk, 15 pity keys. > Total of 408 from 12 hrs farming. Day 3 haul: 348 vk, 46 evk, 11 pity keys. Total of 405 from 12 hrs farming. 3 day totals: 1337 vk, 141 evk, 85 pity keys. 18,624 gnomes killed (all gnome types included) [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/upcoming-weekend/71884.md?page=1)