# Universal refund & individual refund tokens

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [May 29, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631 "2016-05-29T15:42:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/1 "2016-05-29T15:42:02Z")

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I would love if there was a purchaseable item, around 5-10$ that would reset all your spent souls and traitstones. I know I didn’t go exactly the way path I wanted while leveling, and especially before gold leveled up your cities and it was leveling troops that got your cities levels.

I would love to be able to reset my allocations. And would pay money for it.

Additionally I would love to have individual refund tokens available for individual troops for a modest gem fee. Although I understand that could disrupt the economy quite a bit.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/2 "2016-05-29T15:48:04Z")

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I would like it to be a smaller scale feature that wasn’t paid. As in, refund troop whenever. But I think that’s a stretch …

Y’know, things like ‘I wish I hadn’t spent all these Blue/Purple traitstones just to 5-star this kingdom that no longer needs the troop’ …

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/3 "2016-05-29T15:53:48Z")

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As a mid-core (thanks for that term @Lyya) player mine is more “I wish I hadn’t spent all those souls on troops I didn’t need to level” and “I wish I had planned my traitstones out better”.

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**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/4 "2016-05-29T18:25:27Z")

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Maybe have something like one free refund a week, any troop.

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/5 "2016-05-29T18:49:39Z")

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I would prefer both:  
A universal reset for money

Individual reset tokens earn able in game through gems or done such.

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**Author:** ![Naruto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6bbea6/32.png) [@Naruto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Naruto)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/6 "2016-05-29T19:15:01Z")

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I second this idea. It would be a great way to keep the game interesting for players. I think many of us are sick of grinding souls and traitstones to level a team that you think will kick butt, only for it to fail, not to mention the sheer awesomeness of being able to field wacky teams then just reclaim the resources and build a new one. 🙂  
When I was starting out, I fully leveled each one of my 16 legendaries only to end up using a The Anointed one, Alchemist, Banshee, Valkyrie team. I thought gold cards were awesome and now I’m desperate to start some new teams, only I lack souls/trait stones. ☹

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/7 "2016-05-29T20:47:28Z")

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> [@Shimrra](#):
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> I would like it to be a smaller scale feature that wasn’t paid.

Why not make it worth gems? The gems can be gotten free but can also be bought. This prevents those nasty pay to win people showing up and claiming unfairity.

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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/8 "2016-05-29T23:56:44Z")

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Having a single troop refund available for gems would help a ton. Specifically, I’d be able to actually spend my traitstones instead of hoarding them to go toward a troop I don’t even have yet. Once you reach mid level, many troops aren’t viable without all their traits. This would both give another outlet to gems in the economy and allow me at least the option to test how effective a certain team is with traits instead of just raw speculation, taking a gem cost rather than what could be weeks (or even months if I dont straight target farm/event week) to recoup my arcanes and try something else. Whats even better is that a single troop refund feature already exists, just given for free for specific troops on specific weeks (ie., after they are nerfed).

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/9 "2016-05-30T00:13:19Z")

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Keep in mind, in my head I don’t see this as a thing that’s easy to get or do. Something that you have to grind for or spend gems on.

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**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 12:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/10 "2016-05-30T00:23:25Z")

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That is a good point, the team is about 10 people so it would take a while to update the current one but it from the way it works right now should be easy. With it costing gems it would be hard for not map using teams and non-high guild users.

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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/11 "2016-05-30T00:30:27Z")

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I’m in agreement here. Specifically I’d like gems. They _can_ be bought with money if necessary and F2P wise tend to take a while to accumulate except in the top guilds. Currently, there is no way to get Arcanes aside from whatever they are offering that specific week aside from grinding challenges for hours on end. Even cash will only buy specific ones they are offering. While the resource is rare and slow to gain in the first place, being able to respec something to test something else out just for the fun of it would be nice.

I’m sitting on tons of arcanes because fully traiting something is just too much of a commitment when if it turns out to be a dud, often the only avenue to get more stones to test out on something else is at that point the _second_ most boring thing the game has to offer (right behind Treasure Hunt). Offering a gems, or even a low cost single _paid_ reset would be a huge quality of life upgrade to me. Most of the time, I would likely keep the stones where they were after using them, but simply having it there for peace of mind would make using, say, up to 90% of my total resources instead of committing as little as possible (and there are a few things I would refund as soon as the feature went live).

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/12 "2016-05-30T01:01:48Z")

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> [@Mithran](#):
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> I’m sitting on tons of arcanes because fully traiting : something is just too much of a commitment when if it turns out to be a dud,

I did this for a very long time! It’s sad because it feels like detracting from a major part of the game.

I think a 1 time use respec token costing 30-50 gems, and a full account respec for 10-15$.

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/13 "2016-06-02T00:25:32Z")

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The problem with one-time refund tokens for individual troops is that if they are not expensive enough they break the traitstone economy.

Perhaps a sliding scale based on rarity?

Commons start at 5 gems, and it goes up 5 gems per rarity?

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/14 "2016-06-02T00:27:15Z")

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> [@Machiknight](#):
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> full account respec for 10-15$.

for the mistakes ive made, this seems cheap, because I DIDNT hoard them!

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**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/15 "2016-06-02T00:33:32Z")

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I DID hoard mine, and I STILL felt like I did something wrong.

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/16 "2016-06-02T00:49:40Z")

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> [@Mithran](#):
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> I’m sitting on tons of arcanes because fully traiting something is just too much of a commitment when if it turns out to be a dud

I’m in the same boat. Arcane stones are so rare that I’m hesitant to even use them.

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/universal-refund-individual-refund-tokens/7631/17 "2016-06-02T01:39:37Z")

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In this thread, we self-identify as the JRPG players who had 99 of every healing potion at the end of the game, because you never know when battles might get hard and you’ll need them.
