# Treasure Guardian Community Drop Rates

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918>\
**Category:** Community Guides\
**Created:** [October 25, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918 "2023-10-25T01:43:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/62 "2023-10-28T13:19:28Z")

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Ultra-Rare: 2 torches  
Rare: 2 torches  
Common: 2 minor water traitstones  
Rare: 1 Aranea token  
Rare: 3 minor traitstones (color unknown)  
Legendary: 3 torches  
Rare: 1 Monstrous Sentinel  
Rare: 3 minor traitstones (color unknown)  
Legendary: 3 hex trinkets

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**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/63 "2023-10-28T13:48:47Z")

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> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> One piece of feedback, any chance you could use the same color scheme for each chart, like making all torch sections yellow?

Good idea! Up to date:

 ![Screenshot_20231028_100424_Sheets](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/1/018ab1dea6de4bbbe8d1c1b3c7846f26ae9ee7b6.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/64 "2023-10-28T17:02:03Z")

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I’ve 100% mapped my Underspire for the week using all those extra Torches that came raining down upon me after the second reset. (I have several dozen remaining; I hope they carry over to next week so I don’t have to spend more Gems on them.)

Only two Guardian rooms in this entire (post-second-reset) Underspire:

Ultra Rare: Orpheus Token x2  
Rare: Garnet x10

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**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/65 "2023-10-28T18:34:12Z")

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Common Room: 2 x Minor Magic Traitstones

Common Room: 20 Shards

Ultra Rare: 2 Torches

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**Author:** ![mfeforever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@mfeforever](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mfeforever)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/66 "2023-10-29T00:39:15Z")

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The Hoard Mimic nightmare is not a valid comparison. With six randomly generated troops and the low drop rate, the comparison might be considered the Hoard Mimic nightmare multiplied by the Gem Dragon nightmare. Unfortunately, the same formula will be the odds of collecting the complete set.

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**Author:** ![mfeforever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@mfeforever](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mfeforever)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/67 "2023-10-29T00:40:29Z")

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From the release notes, only lanterns and trinkets persist from week to week.

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**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/68 "2023-10-29T01:22:33Z")

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> [@mfeforever](#):
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> With six randomly generated troops and the low drop rate, the comparison might be considered the Hoard Mimic nightmare multiplied by the Gem Dragon nightmare.

It’s going to be worse than that. A lot worse.

For the Hoard Mimic, it was possible to simply grind excessive amounts of Explore and generate a huge number of attempts at Mythic Bosses and beyond in any given span of time.

For Gem Dragons, there were other ways to accumulate Dragonite than by simply achieving a perfect run on a Daily Dungeon.

Neither of those are going to apply here. Even if the Sentinels were a much higher percentage drop out of their pool, your limit for a week is whatever the Underdelve spawns for you. We’ll probably have a better idea of the numbers in a week or three as the community generates enough data in their reporting to know better, but it’s very possible that it will deliberately be a low number on a given week. And it’s one that will still require a fair amount of effort and spending to even discover how unlucky one can be in that week.

For example, my Underdelve had two (2) Sentinels this week. (The one generated after the second reset.)

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**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/69 "2023-10-29T02:06:00Z")

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RNG at work, I guess. I’ve found 12 sentinel dead ends this week, and maybe more tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/70 "2023-10-29T02:14:22Z")

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U guys have made good points. I made the comparison to the hoard mimic because it was the only instance where u could win a troop card from fighting the actual troop itself.

The hoard mimic can be grinded for as long as u want with unlimited attempts, but treasure guardians have a very low drop rate (5.6% chance I think?) on limited attempts for the whole week. (Plus the extra torch and lantern cost of scouting out all the rooms).

I would urge people to try and play under spire as they normally would with optimal paths finding, going for the highest level to find the next door, and then determining the most likely place where the boss dragon would be. To hell with the treasure guardians.

I haven’t done the math on this but big shout out to everyone and @NerdieBirdie for gathering data on the treasure guardian room loot pools. Your efforts are much appreciated.👍

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**Author:** ![Schaafy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Schaafy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schaafy)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/71 "2023-10-29T07:36:08Z")

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Common  
–Token of Anu x1

Rare  
–Torch x2  
–Minor Water Traitstone x3

Ultra-Rare  
–Torch x2

Epic  
–Frost Trinket x2

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**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 7:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/72 "2023-10-29T07:53:58Z")

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**Common**  
5 garnets  
1 torch  
2 minor traitstones  
20 shards

**Rare**  
2 torches  
2 torches

**Ultra-rare**  
2 hex trinkets

**Epic**  
2 bone trinkets  
20 sapphires  
2 torches

2 rooms found before midweek hotfix, the remaining rooms found after the hotfix.  
If anybody wants to count rooms per section…  
 ![Capture](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/7/d7d1b99c8f5c9df43e98e3c33e9e984970386d94.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jerry_the_skunk/32/53897_2.png) [@Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jerry_the_skunk)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/73 "2023-10-29T08:06:39Z")

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ultrarare 2x trinket  
epic 20 garnets

For a second I was tempted to get another 50 gem torch pack to scout a few more rooms, but then my brain came back from vacation.

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**Author:** ![Darklord1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea5d25/32.png) [@Darklord1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darklord1)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/74 "2023-10-29T08:17:03Z")

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Common - 5 sapphires

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/75 "2023-10-29T09:18:12Z")

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Epic room:  
20 sapphires  
20 emeralds  
2x hex trinkets

Ultra-rare:  
2x Yasmine tokens  
2x Bone trinkets  
2x Bone trinkets  
2 Torches  
2 Torches

Rare:  
2 Torches  
1 Gaard token  
1 Anu token  
10 Garnets

Common:  
1 Torch  
1 Gaard Token  
2 Minor Magic Traitstones  
5 Garnets  
20 Shards

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**Author:** ![titan89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/fbc32d/32.png) [@titan89](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/titan89)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/76 "2023-10-29T09:29:59Z")

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Epic:  
2x Frost trinkets  
2x Frost trinkets  
2x Hex trinkets

Ultra-Rare:  
2x Torches

Rare:  
1x Token of Nysha

Common:  
20 Shards  
2x Minor Nature traitstones  
2x Minor Fire traitstones

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**Author:** ![RootsSeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RootsSeed](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RootsSeed)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/77 "2023-10-29T09:39:48Z")

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![imagem_2023-10-29_063912607](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/3/7332f9303774ae6fa96c6f15482052c5630e1193.png)  
 ![imagem_2023-10-29_063940313](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/b/6b5a86f3cfc8adf31d8ad214c1b8e92e931ade4a.png)

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**Author:** ![Lamatiel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lamatiel/32/88935_2.png) [@Lamatiel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lamatiel)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 11:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/78 "2023-10-29T11:21:13Z")

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| Sentinel | C | R | UR |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| | Tangled | Diseased | Elemental |
| | Level 10 | Level 10 | Level 12 |
| | 20 shards | 1 token of Yasmine | 2 token of Yasmine |
| | | | |
| | Frozen | | Daemonic |
| | Level 12 | | Level 12 |
| | 2 minor traitstones | | 2 torches |

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**Author:** ![platinumpwnzor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/platinumpwnzor/32/31551_2.png) [@platinumpwnzor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/platinumpwnzor)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/79 "2023-10-29T11:50:44Z")

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Common 20 shards  
Rare 1x token of yasmine  
Rare 10 sapphires  
Rare 1x token of anu  
Rare 1x token of gaard  
UR 2x resistance trinket  
Epic 2x token of gaard  
Epic 2x torches

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**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/80 "2023-10-29T12:31:02Z")

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After finishing the last Boss room, I decided to use a few Torches to explore the nearby paths and found a Common Room which gave me 20 Shards as reward.

FFS, not impressive!

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**Author:** ![Avathar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/avathar/32/33071_2.png) [@Avathar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Avathar)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/81 "2023-10-29T12:38:41Z")

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These were my guardian rewards this week:

- Rare: 10 garnets
- Epic: 2 torches
- Epic: 2 torches
- Epic: 20 topazes
- Common: 20 shards
- Common: 2 minor traitstones
- Ultra-rare: 2 frost trinkets
- Common: 2 minor traitstones

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