# Treasure Guardian Community Drop Rates

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918>\
**Category:** Community Guides\
**Created:** [October 25, 2023, 1:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918 "2023-10-25T01:43:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/684 "2025-06-07T20:14:39Z")

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Mythic - 5 diamons

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/d/fd5ab43239eb046bf18fdbb4de2c3d55851ce9d3.jpeg)

I hate this game

One more mythic - 3 Anu

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**Author:** ![Diamond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/diamond/32/84316_2.png) [@Diamond](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Diamond)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/685 "2025-06-07T20:27:45Z")

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Me too! 😂…

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**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 7:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/686 "2025-06-14T07:38:54Z")

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FINALLY the last one and the set is complete.

It has taken from 23/10/23 to 14/6/25 to collect all six.

 ![IMG_6435](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/f/6ff0e2fc227095eb336130436dd5a459a73935a8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/687 "2025-06-14T11:40:33Z")

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Mythic - lantern  
Also got a Sentinel form an epic room

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**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/688 "2025-06-14T12:10:18Z")

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So about one and a half years to get all 6 sentinels. Congrats @esslee.🥳

The Draconic Sentinel will probably elude me for another year or so because I keep getting duplicates, but I will keep wasting my time and gems until then…

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/689 "2025-06-14T18:53:31Z")

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Im still stuck on 5 total in all of that time. lol. Haven’t seen one in over 6 months.

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**Author:** ![Theoden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Theoden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theoden)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/690 "2025-06-14T19:02:57Z")

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Same here, still no Monstrous Sentinel, have multiple of all the others. Have been clearing all rooms since they were introduced.

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**Author:** ![Diamond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/diamond/32/84316_2.png) [@Diamond](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Diamond)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/691 "2025-06-14T20:44:13Z")

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I do the first two bosses and the rest is random!! For me!!! 😜 One Sentinel left.. 😁

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**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2025, 9:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/692 "2025-06-14T21:40:17Z")

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I’m also at “one sentinel remaining” despite clearing all seven bosses (and usually ~10-12 sentinel rooms) every week. I’ve only found nine sentinels in all that time and have yet to accumulate more than two copies of any single type.

Of course, I also had a spurt a few months ago when I found several sentinels in a short span of time and dared to ask if somehow the drop rates had changed; since then, I’ve found one (1) sentinel in all that time and naturally it was a dupe.

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 4:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/693 "2025-06-25T04:56:29Z")

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Mythic - 3x Yasmine

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**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 8:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/694 "2025-08-14T08:22:28Z")

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Off-topic for this thread, but didn’t want to start a new one for this.

I have a highly cursed underspire this week. 2 of the first 3 zones broke the “no 4 split” rule. And, unrelated, 2 khafru start of turn crashes so far. Is anyone else’s map really weird this week?

I’m assuming nothing was changed and I’m just unlucky.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 8:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/695 "2025-08-14T08:47:26Z")

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I hate to say you’re unlucky, but.. well..

The Khafru thing shouldn’t be happening. If it happens a 3rd time, may want to consider making a bug report, because it’s probably not going to be a universal crash issue..

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**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/696 "2025-08-14T09:05:36Z")

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Yeah, I haven’t seen a khafru crash in months, especially surprising in a game mode with no heroic gems. If @Jeto feels like checking my underspire battle log from the last 24 hours, both crashes are there. But I’d honestly rather the dev time go to more pressing issues.

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**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/697 "2025-08-14T12:21:43Z")

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> [@covertmuffin123](#):
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> Is anyone else’s map really weird this week?

When I started the fourth “sub-region” during yesterday’s map, my “main path” forked immediately after the gate from the third “sub-region”. And both of those subsuquent rooms were of the identical level.

It’s certainly plausible, but that’s the first time I can recall seeing that specific outcome in all of my history of playing the Underspire. Which left me taking a look at the overall map of the Underspire and having to “logic” out which one was the main path based on where the open space was. I guessed right – I’ve been doing so well on 7 + 10 torches per day this week such that I had enough torches to take one guess through to the gate to the 5th region with yesterday’s batch and my “guess” was right.

But I figure the odds of that exact scenario happening that “deep” into the Underspire is mathematically tiny.

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/698 "2025-08-14T17:28:52Z")

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Side note that I got 0 legendary or mythic rooms for 40 days by now exploring every possible room weekly

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**Author:** ![WHOCARES25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whocares25/32/102013_2.png) [@WHOCARES25](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WHOCARES25)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/699 "2025-08-14T18:12:22Z")

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You know this fork rule.

Is it a rule set by Devs.

Or a rule set by watching tubers like Tacet 🤣.

Honest question, because unless it’s come from the horse’s mouth (Jeto), then it means nothing.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/700 "2025-08-14T19:52:52Z")

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> [@WHOCARES25](#):
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> You know this fork rule.
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> Is it a rule set by Devs.
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> Or a rule set by watching tubers like Tacet

It’s based on an extensive analysis the community did over a year ago, somewhat similar to dungeon doors. Applying the findings usually allows saving several torches each run.

> [@WHOCARES25](#):
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> Honest question, because unless it’s come from the horse’s mouth (Jeto), then it means nothing.

I’m quite sure you won’t find any official able to comment on this, it goes way beyond their usual area of expertise.

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**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/701 "2025-08-15T04:21:39Z")

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I can comment on Underspire, but not sure it really addresses things relating to trying to collect all the Guardian troops..

When it comes to “rules” there are only a couple of things we have programmed specifically:

- Each area has a start & end point
  - A Final boss at a random dead end with the keystone
  - A Merchant at a random location
  - A Treasure Guardian at a dead end within the zone
    - This is sometimes inconsistent, depending on how the layout is generated

Repeat for all 6 areas.

Then other minor constraints, such as an area cannot be bigger than a specific size, and it should be completable within a week (I know that is subjective player to player).

Everything within those points is randomly generated.

Given those restrictions and the layout and placement of rooms generated randomly within them, there will be consistency and repeatable occurrences.

This idea of “rules” like Merchants being specifically X spaces from the “main path”, Boss Rooms are Y spaces from the “main path etc, is not something we have programmed in.

Again, not denying those things are happening, repeatedly, but it’s not something we have programmed in.

As for Guardians, there is a _chance_ for each Treasure Guardian to drop a copy of one of the Guardian troops, and each copy has the same chance to appear.

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**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 5:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/702 "2025-08-15T05:43:17Z")

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Is this chance above or below 0.1%?

US was added almost 2 years ago if I’m not wrong? I’m still at 4 different Guardians with 6 Guardians in total after spending 1500 gems every week and doing every room. So every Guardian should be added to the Soulforge in rotation, pretty much like dragons …

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/treasure-guardian-community-drop-rates/81918/703 "2025-08-15T08:20:11Z")

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> [@Jeto](#):
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> This idea of “rules” like Merchants being specifically X spaces from the “main path”, Boss Rooms are Y spaces from the “main path etc, is not something we have programmed in.

It’s actually inherent part of the maze generation algorithm and specifically programmed that way. If possible, the server will always place these rooms 6 steps off the main path. Whenever it paints itself into a corner it will look for a spot closer to the main path, apparently never less than 4 steps away. When that also fails, weird things have been observed to happen.

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