# Traitstones in PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [June 19, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586 "2016-06-19T02:13:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/1 "2016-06-19T02:13:48Z")
@Mr.Strange @Nex Apparently, on Defense Wins, we have been getting random Traitstones instead of from your Home Kingdom. Has this been fixed in the hotfix, or do we have to wait until the Update? ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/2 "2016-06-19T02:45:30Z")
I thought that was by design. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/3 "2016-06-19T14:11:55Z")
Designed to be different than PC? I’m just curious, as I have been getting my Home Kingdom’s Traitstones the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/4 "2016-06-19T16:25:51Z")
Yes there are a few things designed to be different. Tasks for 1. Entangle for another. Arena as well. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/5 "2016-06-20T01:39:47Z")
Think about it. If you don’t get your Home Kingdom’s Traitstones on defense, then the only point of having a Home Kingdom is the occasional double Tribute. Makes having a Home Kingdom pretty superfluous ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/6 "2016-06-20T01:48:32Z")
Double glory off Whitehelm doesn’t seem superfluous to me. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/7 "2016-06-20T01:51:33Z")
When you are lucky to get it once a day, it is ---
**Author:** ![Athilias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Athilias](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Athilias)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/8 "2016-06-20T01:52:33Z")
Well once you hit 20% it’s probably 2-4 times a day depending on how much you check. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/9 "2016-06-20T03:36:16Z")
On defence it is not your home kingdom on pc/mobile for revenge. I should know my home kingdom is whitehelm and i am constantly fighting in zhul’kari. ---
**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/10 "2016-06-20T03:38:55Z")
it aint random and it aint your home… I think on revenge wins we are getting traits based on their home… ---
**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/11 "2016-06-20T03:48:14Z")
I swear it changes. 😕 There home kingdom was whitehelm. They were using red/blue banner. Every drop was a red or blue stone. No yellow stones dropped. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/12 "2016-06-20T03:55:22Z")
I don’t think we see their actual home kingdom… either way it give us stones for a particular kingdom if you fight the same guy 10 times you get the same color or 2 colors 10 times… ---
**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/13 "2016-06-20T04:00:30Z")
Yeah that’s what happened. Everytime same colour stones. I’ll check guild activity tonight after a few matches and get back to ya mate. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Strange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mr.strange/32/2762_2.png) [@Mr.Strange](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mr.Strange)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/14 "2016-06-20T17:47:03Z")
The design on console has always been that traitstones are random. It’s possible that they have been non-random in some circumstances, but those would have been bugs. PC still bases stone drops on home kingdom, so that might leak into the console base sometimes. But the intent has been and will continue to be random. ---
**Author:** ![DemonicDraco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonicdraco/32/2034_2.png) [@DemonicDraco](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DemonicDraco)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/15 "2016-06-20T17:50:43Z")
defends at least arn’t giving random ones I think invades might not be either but thats a bit harder to tell… ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/16 "2016-06-20T21:38:36Z")
Why not attempt to follow the PC, in order to keep the list of exceptions small? As its easy enough to create additional bugs when porting over from another platform. Plus, It would be nice on occasion to farm a Traitstone or two without having to replay the same challenge over and over again. Oh well, there are so few Defends this really has very little impact in the broader game. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/17 "2016-06-20T21:41:50Z")
You’ll see more defends once 2.0 comes to console. It’s very easy in fact to find Revenge and Rival matches (both of which provide additional glory and the former still counts for kingdom defense bonuses that after x number of wins you get this reward.) ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/18 "2016-06-20T22:57:07Z")
> [@Shiratori](#): > > You’ll see more defends once 2.0 comes to console Yep. But 2.0xx on console is a ways off. \*\*\* (see below for fun speculation) So your saying that getting fixed Traitstones for the purpose of farming from your home kingdom will be way more important in the future? And agree with me that we shouldn’t get random stones in Defends like the rest of PvP? You agree that it should be set like the PC? \*\*\*UNLESS The big surprise is that the Devs are ninja editing in 2.0 PvP changes to the latest update ☺ ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/19 "2016-06-20T23:03:30Z")
Nope I like random. After all, considering Whitehelm is a popular kingdom, do I really want just yellows? If I want something specific, I’ll farm a kingdom. And I believe it was mentioned that the 2.0 gameplay changes are definitely not being added. Just the updated troop stats and effects as far as anything 2.0 related getting into the next update. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586/20 "2016-06-20T23:11:07Z")
> [@Shiratori](#): > > definitely not being added Yeah, yeah I’m well are of this. So what are the surprises they wrote about that “people are not aware of” and will be surprised when they see it?.. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-in-pvp/8586.md?page=2)