# Traitstones Crafting **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [December 20, 2015, 3:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162 "2015-12-20T03:39:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MrSammy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsammy/32/1957_2.png) [@MrSammy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSammy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/1 "2015-12-20T03:39:46Z")
Okay, I know I’m not going to make friends with this post, but here it goes. I currently have hundreds of unused minor and major traitstones (except for the minor fire ones). I would like to combine them into larger traitstone… Is that in the plan/work? If not, can it be? ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/2 "2015-12-20T03:53:42Z")
Some sort of conversion system. For instance, I have more Minor Waters than the rest of my MInors combined but the least Runic Waters. It could be color to color in the same tier, or tier to tier in the same color, or a combination… And of course, nobody can use their Celestials. Or their Majors. ---
**Author:** ![MrSammy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsammy/32/1957_2.png) [@MrSammy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSammy)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/3 "2015-12-20T04:34:49Z")
I was thinking of a sysytem to exchange lower tier traitstones for higher ones. Maybe 8:1… ---
**Author:** ![MickiTheFox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mickithefox/32/353_2.png) [@MickiTheFox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MickiTheFox)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/4 "2015-12-20T04:38:06Z")
i think that’s a good idea, mr sammy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Serale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/serale/32/1081_2.png) [@Serale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Serale)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/5 "2015-12-20T05:12:43Z")
10 minor for 1 major 10 major for 1 runic 5 arcane for 1 celestial 2 arcanes for a random arcane. I think that’d be fine. No? ---
**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/6 "2015-12-20T05:21:43Z")
3 of 1 color to 1 of the same level of a another color? ---
**Author:** ![utfanx2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/utfanx2/32/525_2.png) [@utfanx2](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/utfanx2)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/7 "2015-12-20T15:41:56Z")
I would like to expand the idea to include dismantling as well. I currently have 2x as many majors as I do minors. ---
**Author:** ![b\_sen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de0a6/32.png) [@b\_sen](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/b_sen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/8 "2015-12-20T16:46:40Z")
Agreed on general principle. There should be a way to convert so that people aren’t stuck with a pile of traitstones they can’t use. ---
**Author:** ![Evad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a4c791/32.png) [@Evad](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Evad)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/9 "2015-12-20T16:57:50Z")
I wish I had this problem! ---
**Author:** ![Pew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@Pew](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pew)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/10 "2015-12-20T21:23:15Z")
I actually made a post similar to this in another thread a few minutes ago. I didn’t see your post before. I completely support this idea. > [@Why We Have So Many 'Major Traitstones' - EXPLAINED](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-we-have-so-many-major-traitstones-explained/2181/2): > > I can only imagine how long it will take a casual player to unlock traits on their favorite troops. Once rarity is too high, it removes the fun of the chase. A fun feature designed to add variety to the game, then becomes unobtainable by the average player, and turns them off from playing. ---
**Author:** ![KAYA43V3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kaya43v3r/32/312_2.png) [@KAYA43V3R](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KAYA43V3R)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/11 "2015-12-20T22:21:26Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/4/42b0df468b76d0ace171ee9e24392e3409e171aa.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/12 "2015-12-20T22:24:29Z")
Oh, even just for gold. That’s better than nothing. Seeing as we’re going to be loaded with Majors… ---
**Author:** ![fracturedorb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@fracturedorb](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/fracturedorb)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/13 "2015-12-20T22:41:59Z")
I have a small amount of traitstones from the few that have shown up in chests… how do people have so many? Is there some way to get them I’m not seeing? ---
**Author:** ![KAYA43V3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kaya43v3r/32/312_2.png) [@KAYA43V3R](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KAYA43V3R)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/14 "2015-12-20T22:48:10Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > That’s better than nothing yep better than nothing, and if we can sell maps it will be great… ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/15 "2015-12-20T22:57:09Z")
I’d rather they made them more useful. Although I am biased… I like maps. Although its already been said multiple times that traitstones should totally be in maps. That would make them worthwhile. ---
**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/16 "2015-12-21T19:36:10Z")
pvp and challenges have about a 50/50 chance of getting one… its been noted that the quest area and home kingdom/banner increase that particular color. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/17 "2015-12-28T15:27:54Z")
This is ridiclous. I know I just got a bunch of blues artificially from the Stormheim event, but I have this: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/c/ccbaf7c173c904b95dcf95270d55eb2ebdccd1d1.png) I also have THIS: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/8/8a6da307e8e669a081b1414b27b06e896b190fb9.png) I am now setting my home kingdom to Stormheim ahead of everyone fast-tracking to PVP-rank 1 so that my defenses can be guaranteed blues. Just to get some Runics… and its going to pump my Minors through the roof, through the atmosphere and into space. This is precisely why we need a crafting/transforming/exchange/conversion WHATEVER system in place. ---
**Author:** ![MrSammy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mrsammy/32/1957_2.png) [@MrSammy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrSammy)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/18 "2015-12-28T15:45:45Z")
How did you get so many runics?!? ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/19 "2015-12-28T17:22:28Z")
I probably just haven’t _spent_ as many. Gem Keys mostly though, probably 40% chance or something on them. ---
**Author:** ![Glunkforth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@Glunkforth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Glunkforth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162/20 "2016-01-15T22:41:33Z")
Very much agreed.At the present time, higher-level stones are too rare and lower-level stones are too abundant, so it’s a panoply of annoyances. The idea of being able to further upgrade favored cards via these various systems (ascension, traits, etc.) is great, but the degree of actual control the player has over whether they’re able to do so is much too low. There’s really just not much you can do but hope if you’re trying to grab runics. I’d like to see an upgrade system and a sidegrade system, exchanging so many of one color for fewer of another. Also, if we ever _do_ get an upgrade system for traitstones, they should be removed from chests. Nothing is worse than opening gem or honor chests and getting…a rock. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstones-crafting/2162.md?page=2)