# Traitstone Drop-rates **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [December 30, 2015, 6:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482 "2015-12-30T06:14:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Ragereaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Ragereaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ragereaver)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/122 "2016-01-29T17:37:49Z")
tempted to do the same, but will probably get sick of it and annoyed by the lost glory from pvp and wait till the arcanes are in the rewards… but it might be like 6 months??? ⭕ I’m being indecisive… ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/123 "2016-01-30T02:58:07Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/9/9ddbd4b30f119a5d75a3ec82f95f716a60f1b676.png) So based on the data gathered, we can be 95% certain that the average drop rate of the traitstones is within + / - 3% of the figures in the table. Another 800 samples before we can get to + / - 2% (but I’m not sure being any more accurate is worth it). It is clear that you may as well be farming the moon if you’re trying to farm arcane traitstones for a base level Epic or Legendary character. I think the better strategy may be to gather Glory, and use it on the the weekly bundle (such as Arcane Blood) this week. ---
**Author:** ![collectorofgems](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/collectorofgems/32/38138_2.png) [@collectorofgems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/collectorofgems)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/124 "2016-01-30T03:30:39Z")
Quote from Namour : “It is clear that you may as well be farming the moon if you’re trying to farm arcane traitstones for a base level Epic or Legendary character. I think the better strategy may be to gather Glory, and use it on the the weekly bundle (such as Arcane Blood) this week.” I completely whole-heartedly agree. ---
**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/125 "2016-01-30T04:45:51Z")
> [@Nimhain](#): > > playing on higher difficulties increases the chance of getting a traitstone by a slight amount. What’s the rate increase, exactly? And can you change “slight amount” to “good amount”? I believe the current drop rate chance is something like 50% ish per battle? So can you spread the Difficulty % bonus spectrum across to outright 100% at the highest Warlord IV setting? Honestly, I don’t see how this can be unbalancing. Warlord IV is NOT a walk in the park, even if we’re just running Challenges. And even if the drop rate is at 100%, assuming I play 300 games a week (and I don’t), then according to the statistic table that’s … 186 Minor Stones 81 Major Stones 27 Runic Stones 5 Arcane Stones 2 Celestial Stones This could probably only support three Tier 1 Traits + one Tier 2 Traits and roughly 0.5 Tier 3 Trait a week. Since there are… what? roughly 170 creatures and increasing in game? That means at 100% drop-rate, playing 300 Games of Warlord IV Difficulty Every Week, a player can fill out All the Tier 1 Traits in 56 Weeks All the Tier 2 Traits in 170 weeks All the Tier 3 Traits in 340 weeks I think this is still acceptable? If a player is willing to stick out 6 years of non-stop farming on Warlord IV to max out all the Traits, then I would just take off my hat and say kudo to em. Where as right now, at 50% drop rate setting, the number of weeks essentially doubled… that’s a little scary to think about. Not to mention the last time I checked the guild roster, on avg most players probably play no more than 100 games weekly. Give us a little candy break, please? 😅 TYVM ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/126 "2016-01-30T08:49:50Z")
I just have already fixed it in my mind that I will never have any of those expense troops traited up. I’ll probably buy trait stones when they appear in glory packs for the troops I want, but I don’t even know which ones I WANT to trait up. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/127 "2016-01-30T08:53:18Z")
Very nice statestics, Namour! 60-30-10-2-1 (%) ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/128 "2016-01-30T13:51:48Z")
Yeah pretty much the only time I bother to farm challenges now if it’s turns out I only need one arcane stone to complete a trait, even then it’s an incredible chore unless you get lucky early. Glory packs are the only way to go currently… ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/129 "2016-01-30T20:13:37Z")
> [@eika86](#): > > Very nice statestics, Namour! 60-30-10-2-1 (%) Likely 59 - 29 - 9 - 2 - 1, adds to 100 ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/130 "2016-01-30T21:22:44Z")
Another 100 drops to add to the data: Minor - 59 Major - 33 Relic - 6 Arcane - 2 celestial - 0 My relics are a touch low, but it matches the 59, 29, 9, 2, 1 expectation fairly close. ---
**Author:** ![xSidarothx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xsidarothx/32/478_2.png) [@xSidarothx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xSidarothx)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/131 "2016-02-01T18:42:15Z")
Updated sample size of 200 (including the previous post): no traitstone: 15.5% minor: 53% major: 23.5% runic: 5.5% arcane: 2% celestial: 0.5% ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/132 "2016-02-04T05:27:24Z")
Another 100 drops minor 52 major 37 runic 9 arcane 1 celestial 1 Got a lot more majors than I expected ---
**Author:** ![Ragereaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Ragereaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ragereaver)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/133 "2016-02-04T16:45:48Z")
I think we, I think we sussed it out guys ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/134 "2016-02-04T17:00:58Z")
Total statistics for the thread: Minor - 889 Major - 440 Runic - 134 Arcane - 29 Celestial - 12 Total - 1504 With 1500 samples, that is a 2.6% margin of error Minor - 58.3 - 59.9% Major - 28.9 - 29.6% Runic - 8.8 - 9.0% Arcane - 1.90 - 1.95% Celestial - 0.8% ---
**Author:** ![DanWhatever](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/danwhatever/32/3565_2.png) [@DanWhatever](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DanWhatever)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/135 "2016-02-07T02:26:13Z")
Don’t say that … They’ll go and change it on us now!!! ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/136 "2016-02-07T04:54:17Z")
Record here, 100 matches played 2 arcanes and 3 celestial stones. ---
**Author:** ![Ragereaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Ragereaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ragereaver)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/137 "2016-02-10T14:45:10Z")
200, 0 arcane or celestial \>.\> ---
**Author:** ![CatalinM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cab0a1/32.png) [@CatalinM](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CatalinM)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 9:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/138 "2016-02-13T09:07:21Z")
kinda off-topic 😉 : Which types of traitstones and how many of each is needed for Hydra’s 3rd trait? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Teddy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/teddy/32/2534_2.png) [@Teddy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Teddy)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 9:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/139 "2016-02-13T09:46:24Z")
Use the wiki that’s posted on the main of the forums, It’s VERY informative about everything you need to know. > [@GoW WIKI - Here!](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gow-wiki-here/3496): > > Searching for GoW info? Try our WIKI: [http://gems-of-war.wikia.com/](http://gems-of-war.wikia.com/) Maybe some of you noticed that I disappeared from the forum for the last 3 weeks. I had good reasons… We have tons of information on the forum, but it’s not centralized… We needed something better. So, I created a WIKI for GoW! Now, it’s not fully complete, but it contains A LOT of information, 300+ pages!: Kingdoms (thanks @Venan for the map) Troops & spells Traits (big thanks to @KAYA43V3R on this one!) Team bonuses Wea… ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2016, 9:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/140 "2016-02-13T09:46:43Z")
> [@CatalinM](#): > > kinda off-topic 😉 : Which types of traitstones and how many of each is needed for Hydra’s 3rd trait? Thanks. Here’s the wiki link you need: > **[Hydra](https://gems-of-war.fandom.com/wiki/Hydra)** ---
**Author:** ![Ragereaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Ragereaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ragereaver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482/141 "2016-03-09T00:52:46Z")
Haha maybe, guess we will start counting again in a few days just in case. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482.md?page=6) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitstone-drop-rates/2482.md?page=8)