# Traitless Teams

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitless-teams/5425>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [April 8, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitless-teams/5425 "2016-04-08T22:05:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![moonyson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/moonyson/32/2094_2.png) [@moonyson](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/moonyson)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitless-teams/5425/1 "2016-04-08T22:05:10Z")

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Since Patch 1.0.9 traits become much more effectiv.  
So i was woundering are they some well working teams without traits or maybe only first trait.  
The only one comes to my mind is something with Alch/Valk/Banshee

Greetings Moonyson

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**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitless-teams/5425/2 "2016-04-08T22:26:29Z")

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Lol, most decks are good without traits, traits just helps the team being better most of the time.  
Except for Armored / Stoneskin / Some legendary traits that are way above the others and make a big change in the worthiness of a card.

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**Author:** ![collectorofgems](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/collectorofgems/32/38138_2.png) [@collectorofgems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/collectorofgems)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitless-teams/5425/3 "2016-04-08T23:30:55Z")

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And the troop would be comparably weaker if the the opponent had traits active. Big disadvantage.

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitless-teams/5425/4 "2016-04-08T23:48:05Z")

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I think the Crimson Bat deck will do well even without traits. Traits will speed it up, but it’s pretty solid.

The Yasmin’s Chalice / Rowan combination doesn’t need traits.

An early stoneskin Golem, as the cheapest stoneskin to trait, can help out if your just starting to get to traits.

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2016, 9:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/traitless-teams/5425/5 "2016-04-16T09:47:11Z")

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> [@Zelarith](#):
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> a big change in the worthiness of a card.

a fully traited mollock is a find another fight for me. -1 magic for each 4 or 5 match? wowsers!
