# Tracking number of fights per battlecrasher
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [November 16, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718 "2021-11-16T14:27:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2021, 9:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/61 "2021-11-29T09:02:29Z")
| 29-Nov | | |
| --- | --- | --- |
| | Fight | King H. |
| PvP | 1 | 1 |
| PvP | 1 | 1 |
| PvP | 5 | 1 |
| Exp 1 | 2 | 1 |
| Exp 1 | 1 | 1 |
| Exp 1 | 2 | 1 |
| Exp 1 | 5 | 1 |
| Exp 1 + 6 | 8 | 1 |
| Exp 6 | 1 | 1 |
| Exp 6 | 2 | 1 |
| TOTAL | 28 | 10 |
| | | 35,7% |
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### Author:  [@Asmodous](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Asmodous)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/62 "2021-11-29T11:47:17Z")
I will point out that this has been my fastest day by literally hours. My RNG this event has been utterly trash. Getting the tenth crasher has taken me well into the triple figures multiple times.
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2021, 12:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/63 "2021-11-29T12:01:06Z")
I can feel the frustration out of your post.
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### Author:  [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2021, 10:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/64 "2021-11-30T10:15:03Z")
| 30-Nov | | |
| --- | --- | --- |
| | Fight | King H. |
| cPvP+PvP | 1 | 1 |
| | 5 | 1 |
| | 5 | 1 |
| | 4 | 1 |
| | 8 | 1 |
| | 5 | 1 |
| | 17 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 52 | 1 |
| TOTAL | 101 | 10 |
| | | 9,9% |
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### Author:  [@Asmodous](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Asmodous)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/65 "2021-11-30T23:10:18Z")
Ah, this is more like it. I found the first 5 crashers within 19 fights, I’m now going to bed having lost count of how many fights I’ve had since then without a single extra crasher. It was somewhere around 50 that I lost count… A while ago.
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### Author:  [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 8:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/66 "2021-12-01T08:24:12Z")
| 1-Dec | | |
| --- | --- | --- |
| | Fight | King H. |
| Exp 1 | 2 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 1 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 3 | 1 |
| | 1 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 1 | 1 |
| | 7 | 1 |
| | 30 | 1 |
| TOTAL | 51 | 10 |
| | | 19,6% |
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### Author:  [@Senedai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Senedai)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/67 "2021-12-01T15:15:03Z")
Today December 1st I hit a new high… I’m currently on battle 180 and have only found 9 battlecrashers! STAT THAT!
EDIT: Found the 10th at 208th battle. Yes, that right… TWO HUNDRED AND FRIGGIN EIGHT battles to get 10 kingdom pass battle crashers!! I swear I’ve found more gnome battle crashers than king eliodores! My game ID is ILKAR\_DMEM so if you keep any logs you can check for yourself!! This is PHU$%/$ RIDICULOUS!!!
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### Author:  [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/68 "2021-12-01T18:46:10Z")
Are people seeing well above the expected rate of ~50-100 battles _max_ doing anything abnormal, like quitting out of fights? Or counting fights that don’t qualify ( **ANY** non-explore and/or non-PVP battle)?
A quit (or lost?) fight doesn’t reset the counter, pretty sure, so of course that would extend the amount of time required (despite the fact the person is, presumably, forfeiting in order to _speed up_ battle rate. The effort is simply thwarted because the game _disagrees_ that is a legitimate means to do so).
And if one is counting all one’s dailies — Adventure Board, Arena offers, delve sigils, etc… — one is simply mistaken to do so 🤷♂️
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### Author:  [@Asmodous](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Asmodous)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/69 "2021-12-01T20:03:42Z")
I’m alternating between pvp, explore 2 and explore 12. I’m not counting lost fights and I never retreat from a fight. Consistently getting 100+ fights for the 9th or 10yh crashers.
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### Author:  [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/70 "2021-12-01T20:08:02Z")
How close to reset do you typically play? Are you on PC/Mobile?
If close and yes, I wonder if this might have something to do with your timegate not opening correctly — which seems to be causing Guild Wars issues for similar reset-isn’t-working-right reasons 🤔
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### Author:  [@Asmodous](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Asmodous)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/71 "2021-12-01T21:26:17Z")
I play from around reset up until around 11pm GMT
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### Author:  [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/72 "2021-12-01T23:35:04Z")
> [@Magnusimus](#):
>
> A quit (or lost?) fight doesn’t reset the counter, pretty sure,
I can confirm this.
I lost a Level 12 Explore where a Battlecrasher appeared (had the totally wrong team set by mistake), but I still ended up with 10 at the end of the day.
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### Author:  [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/73 "2021-12-02T01:29:22Z")
Oh, I know _that_ counter doesn’t reset — one can’t (as far as has been reported thus far!) be cheated out of crowns for a mischance, thankfully 🙂
The counter I _meant_ was a hidden one nobody can access (but that presumably exists) : the “encounter chance” counter.
It’s not a pity counter _per se_ because there’s never a guarantee that the next battle will definitely have a crasher. But it works something like this:
Check 1: Valid Battle? If not, “regular” battle engages. But if so…
Check 2: Gnome? If so, gnome. But if not…
Check 3: Battlecrasher?
To determine this: Roll by current % chance (so something like 95, 90, 85, 75, 65, 55, 40, 25, 10, 5, based on progressions. The dropoffs are probably not so harsh as I’ve modeled, or regular in the same way, because I don’t know what the governing equation/pattern is). If it rolls a hit, one sees Heliodor. If it doesn’t, a “regular” battle kicks out.
All of this is to say — it’s the counter of the _first_ check to which I was referring. A valid battle can only be:
1. PVP or Explore
_and_
1. a battle which does **NOT** follow a loss or a forfeit.
(So really check 1 is two conjoined checks, if I’m right 😉)
If one constantly resets Check 1 and spits out regular battle after regular battle, it _seems_ like the Heliodor counter is off. But it isn’t — in these specific cases, it’s just never initialized 🤷♂️
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### Author:  [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/74 "2021-12-02T08:30:24Z")
| 2-Dec | | |
| --- | --- | --- |
| | Fight | King H. |
| cPvP | 3 | 1 |
| cPvP | 3 | 1 |
| cPvP | 6 | 1 |
| PvP | 1 | 1 |
| cPvP | 3 | 1 |
| PvP | 2 | 1 |
| cPvP | 3 | 1 |
| PvP | 1 | 1 |
| cPvP | 1 | 1 |
| cPvP | 5 | 1 |
| TOTAL | 28 | 10 |
| | | 35,7% |
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### Author:  [@Senedai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Senedai)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 9:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/75 "2021-12-02T09:13:48Z")
Not the case with me Magnusimus. All 208 battles were E2 explore victories half way through the day on PC.
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### Author:  [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/76 "2021-12-02T16:23:03Z")
> [@Magnusimus](#):
>
> Oh, I know _that_ counter doesn’t reset — one can’t (as far as has been reported thus far!) be cheated out of crowns for a mischance, thankfully 🙂
>
> The counter I _meant_ was a hidden one nobody can access (but that presumably exists) : the “encounter chance” counter.
Ah, ok, I misunderstood what you were referring to.
If I were programing it, I’d just have a table like you describe with the change of a battle crasher appearing and pick the percentage based on the number collected.
That would be the simplest way of implementing it and changing chances if (when!) needed…
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### Author:  [@Senedai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Senedai)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/77 "2021-12-02T18:19:21Z")
And today, to make it up for the abnormality of yesterday, I completed the chore of collecting 10 battlecrashers in just 36 E2 battles.
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### Author:  [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)
#### Post date: [December 3, 2021, 11:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/78 "2021-12-03T11:17:09Z")
| 3-Dec | | |
| --- | --- | --- |
| | Fight | King H. |
| cPvP | 2 | 1 |
| cPvP | 1 | 1 |
| cPvP | 2 | 1 |
| cPvP | 2 | 1 |
| cPvP | 2 | 1 |
| cPvP | 10 | 1 |
| PvP | 2 | 1 |
| cPvP | 6 | 1 |
| PvP | 4 | 1 |
| cPvP | 19 | 1 |
| TOTAL | 50 | 10 |
| | | 20,0% |
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### Author:  [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/79 "2021-12-04T09:59:10Z")
| 4-Dec | | |
| --- | --- | --- |
| | Fight | King H. |
| cPvP | 3 | 1 |
| PvP | 8 | 1 |
| cPvP | 2 | 1 |
| | 1 | 1 |
| | 3 | 1 |
| | 3 | 1 |
| | 6 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 6 | 1 |
| TOTAL | 36 | 10 |
| | | 27,8% |
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### Author:  [@ALP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ALP)
#### Post date: [December 5, 2021, 9:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/tracking-number-of-fights-per-battlecrasher/72718/80 "2021-12-05T09:46:16Z")
| 5-Dec | | |
| --- | --- | --- |
| | Fight | King H. |
| PvP | 1 | 1 |
| cPvP | 3 | 1 |
| | 1 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 1 | 1 |
| | 2 | 1 |
| | 3 | 1 |
| | 6 | 1 |
| | 8 | 1 |
| | 4 | 1 |
| TOTAL | 31 | 10 |
| | | 32,3% |
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