# Total Souls Required to Max Out Everything (Current as of 7/26/2016) **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [July 11, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409 "2016-07-11T22:14:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 7:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/61 "2016-07-12T07:51:31Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > Instead of wasting electrons asking for something you immediately decry as depressing, The math of the problem is depressing but the answer is not. My math that makes me happy is the kind that had the ability to defend someone from false allegations. This kind of math only shows my shortcomings that i have still a long way to go and the goal gets further away with each troop that comes out. ---
**Author:** ![CSZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/csz/32/4784_2.png) [@CSZ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CSZ)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 9:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/62 "2016-07-12T09:40:02Z")
I actually ike the fact that I never will finish leveling all troops, so I can always enjoying that little green arrow 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/63 "2016-07-12T13:16:56Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > Sounds like it will be difficult to keep end gamers happy without making everyone else feel like it is a lost cause And that is exactly why the gap between the top and the bottom matters. It’s an exceedingly difficult balancing act to keep everyone happy when they’re having wildly different experiences. Playing more or better should matter, but if they’re effectively operating under different rules, then it’s like they’re playing a different game. Balancing one game is hard enough, but balancing two interlinked ones is a whole other level of difficult. ---
**Author:** ![SirCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sircookie/32/13060_2.png) [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 4:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/64 "2016-07-13T04:31:22Z")
This also agrees with what I can see in the game with my level 5 mythic and my level 9 mythic (going from 5-\>6, 5-\>20, 9-\>10, and 9-\>20). Since the numbers look good, I’ve updated the wiki page: [Troop Leveling | Gems of War Wikia | Fandom](http://gems-of-war.wikia.com/wiki/Troop_Leveling) There’s also a cumulative table there in case anyone is interested. ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/65 "2016-07-13T15:33:41Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > So Valkyries trait for 50% bonus souls is only counted up to the initial 40 souls and then capped? > > The real question is: how many fingerclicks does it take… (in Sisqo voice please) > > That is quite wasteful, no need for that trait! you need to get to waterlink = good! > [@Phaethon](#): > > Considering each troop is worth 250 Power Level points at max, a kingdom with 8 troops would total 2,000 PL points; enough to get you to 2 Gold Stars. A troop itself is 50 points no? + 19 levels (190) + 3 traits (75) = 315 or am i wrong ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/66 "2016-07-13T15:47:11Z")
A single troop contributes exactly 325 points when maxed out (so add 10 for level 1, which counts). An 8-troop kingdom will max out at 2600 points when all 8 troops are Mythic with all three traits. ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/67 "2016-07-14T18:15:44Z")
> [@therealwetwilly](#): > > A troop itself is 50 points no? + 19 levels (190) + 3 traits (75) = 315 or am i wrong He was asking for the points given for just leveling troops (excluding traits). The base value is 50 points, plus 10 points for each level (including base level 1), making each troop worth 250 points at mythic, without traits. ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/68 "2016-07-14T18:30:14Z")
ok gotcha, my bad. ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/69 "2016-07-14T23:05:02Z")
Oh, no worries. It wasn’t meant to be high-handed, I was just clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/71 "2016-07-21T03:22:45Z")
Up to date. ---
**Author:** ![Phaethon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409/72 "2016-10-13T13:26:56Z")
I was a lazy prick and abandoned this thread. Current, fully updated post along _with_ traitstones can be found here: > [@Troops, Souls, Traitstones & Kingdoms Tracking Spreadsheet (Silverglade Update)](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/troops-souls-traitstones-info-spreadsheet/13412): > > UPDATED 20th Jan 2017 (Silverglade) Hi Everyone, I was wondering how many more souls and traitstones I still needed to farm to level up all of my troops. So I made myself a spreadsheet that calculates it for you. It turns out its a lot slight_smile. I would love this as an in game feature, but as its not, this spreadsheet will have to do! The spreadsheet calculates and shows how many traitstones and souls you still need, kingdom levels, tributes, skill bonuses, etc. pretty much all you wil… [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/total-souls-required-to-max-out-everything-current-as-of-7-26-2016/9409.md?page=3)