# Top 50 Guild League Table History

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [January 6, 2016, 11:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648 "2016-01-06T11:24:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 43

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**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/847 "2017-11-10T14:00:26Z")

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His list is for the most trophies in a week. Statagem, when we were Vn4Ever, had stopped chasing that as a goal over a year ago.

The focus went to Guild Wars, and life.

> [@Ace1](#):
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> excuse me where is STRATAGEM currently in 5th please

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/848 "2017-11-10T17:31:12Z")

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> [@Taransworld](#):
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> I understand and I’m sorry I couldn’t help more. Best of luck.

Once again, I am sure your tools will be useful to many people.

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/849 "2017-11-10T17:40:32Z")

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> [@Lardy-Porker](#):
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> If anyone can help me ‘normalize’ the left side of the chart without just making stuff up, I’d be grateful!

I think you gave yourself the answer. The massive increase is due to the release of the new PVP system. The easiest solution would be to multiply by 3 the amount of trophies made before.  
To be accurate you would also need to take into account the date when we have stopped losing trophies on defeats and the date when we stopped gaining 2 trophies when defeating someone of a higher tier rank wile climbing to tier 1.  
But I can’t remember when it was and I doubt anyone would be able to determine the impact.

> [@Lardy-Porker](#):
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> 1. Over the past 2 years the nature of top 50 guilds has changed. In Nov 2015 my Guild was in the top 20… we never changed, but the competition did. As more and more ‘hardcore’ guilds formed, ‘casual-competitive’ guilds like my own have steadily moved down the rankings, in spite of (more modest) increases in trophy takes. I’m fine with that, but again it means doing 9000 trophies a week means something very different than it did a year ago.

You are right. I remember that during the summer of 2016 15K trophies / week was a pretty good week for us…

> [@Lardy-Porker](#):
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> Also: if anyone has data for the top guilds from prior to Nov 2015 I’d love to see it!

I don’t have any. But I would be interested in seeing them to.  
It would be nice to have some chronicles of the guilds and the players. There used to be a dev posting each week the list of the very first lvl 1000 on the old forum, but that is all.  
I don’t think there are many people who remember which guilds have been #1.

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**Author:** ![Lardy-Porker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lardy-porker/32/25588_2.png) [@Lardy-Porker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lardy-Porker)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/850 "2017-11-11T00:00:33Z")

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> [@Aelthwyn](#):
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> To be accurate you would also need to take into account the date when we have stopped losing trophies on defeats and the date when we stopped gaining 2 trophies when defeating someone of a higher tier rank wile climbing to tier 1.

This is very useful. There are in fact 2 or 3 other spots where average guild trophy take increased more than seemed natural for an average of many guilds. Those spots probably correlate with the scoring changes you mentioned, which I’d never heard of before, having only been playing a year.

I didn’t see any mention of those two changes in the release notes, but once I pull the dates of the smaller bumps I’ll know where to look.

> [@Aelthwyn](#):
>
> I doubt anyone would be able to determine the impact.

I could roughly determine it by looking at the % jump that week, just as you recommended for May '16.

> [@Aelthwyn](#):
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> I don’t have any. But I would be interested in seeing them to.

If I find any reliable data I’ll forward it along to you. Someone _must_ have recorded it, if only for their own or their guild’s use.

> [@Aelthwyn](#):
>
> It would be nice to have some chronicles of the guilds and the players.

That’s what I’m trying to do for my guild. The difficulty of discovering the history is what makes it a fun project for me. These days if you want to know about _any_ detail of world history, you go to Wikipedia and there it is. I’m fascinated by the difficulties of discovering guild history, even though we’re talking about events that happened 2 or 3 years ago. But the most senior member of my guild joined in June 2016, so all that stuff seems like ‘ancient history’ hidden in the mists of time. 😋

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**Author:** ![Lardy-Porker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lardy-porker/32/25588_2.png) [@Lardy-Porker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lardy-Porker)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/851 "2017-11-11T00:01:28Z")

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> [@Aelthwyn](#):
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> old forum

One last question! What is the “old forum” you speak of? Is it still online, and if so do you have the URL?

Thx!  
🐖

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2017, 1:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/852 "2017-11-11T01:24:49Z")

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> [@Lardy-Porker](#):
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> One last question! What is the “old forum” you speak of? Is it still online, and if so do you have the URL?
> 
> Thx!  
> 🐖

> [@Need to Access Old Forum Content?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/need-to-access-old-forum-content/70):
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> Simply head to [Gems of War | Forums](http://gemsofwar.com/forums/) where you’ll be able to browse the old forum in archive mode. We’d advise bringing over any content that you wish to keep as this will go offline at some point in the future!

Sadly it seems to have gone offline.  
This forum has been created about 2 years ago. It has replaced the one mentioned in the post I have quoted.

> [@Arcane death traitstone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/arcane-death-traitstone/2647/851):
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> That’s what I’m trying to do for my guild. The difficulty of discovering the history is what makes it a fun project for me. These days if you want to know about any detail of world history, you go to Wikipedia and there it is. I’m fascinated by the difficulties of discovering guild history, even though we’re talking about events that happened 2 or 3 years ago. But the most senior member of my guild joined in June 2016, so all that stuff seems like ‘ancient history’ hidden in the mists of time. 😋

The GL that made our guild reach the top has quit the game in July 2016. When he left we had a big discussion about what we wanted for our guild. Some people wanted to play more or less casual and left the guild. Two of them joined your guild, which was still in the top 25 back then. I have tried to inquire but have been told they weren’t with you anymore.  
Our veteran has joined in June 2015. The GL who quit the game - and who had never been very talkative - was the last founding member. So we know nothing about how our guild started. I regret it.

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**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 10:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/853 "2017-11-12T10:31:20Z")

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Behold in breathless wonder: the [Weekly Top 50 update](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QKzOpy-0ExsaBrUTkRCQSBgSJ2BihdhNe1dcgCUxYHA)!

Welcome to our newest guild in the Top 50, the eponymous A W RYAN.

Weekly Top 10:

1. Intrim
2. Anonymous
3. Solophobia
4. TUF: Unrepentant
5. francaise
6. Últimos Guardianes
7. Magix
8. Marthos Guardians
9. ratticlub11
10. Dominant

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**Author:** ![Ace1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Ace1](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ace1)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 10:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/854 "2017-11-12T10:31:31Z")

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many thanks

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**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 10:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/855 "2017-11-19T10:36:17Z")

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Gimme a T! Gimme an O! … eh, [you know what time it is](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QKzOpy-0ExsaBrUTkRCQSBgSJ2BihdhNe1dcgCUxYHA). 🙂

This week marks the point where reaching the Top 50 requires over 600,000 trophies, about a season since the whole Top 50 reached the half million mark.

And we have a newcomer to reaching that milestone: TUF: Abaddon - welcome!

Weekly Top 10:

1. Intrim
2. Anonymous
3. Match Masters
4. A W RYAN
5. Últimos Guardianes
6. TUF: Unrepentant
7. Solophobia
8. ratticlub11
9. DarkWarriors
10. Magix

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**Author:** ![PGSundling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pgsundling/32/39480_2.png) [@PGSundling](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PGSundling)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/856 "2017-11-19T22:44:36Z")

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TUF:Abaddon was so happy to hit the top 50 that they celebrated with 101 legendary tasks, beating TUF:Unrepentant’s record of 80 legendaries. 😲

I’ve been looking forward to this moment myself for quite some time. I congratulate TUF:Abaddon and all they’ve accomplished to join this list. 🎉

None of the Above  
TUF:Unrepentant

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**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 10:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/857 "2017-11-26T10:57:29Z")

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It’s like Moa-Christmas in the [Top 50 this week](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QKzOpy-0ExsaBrUTkRCQSBgSJ2BihdhNe1dcgCUxYHA)!

The combination of Moas all over PvP plus a PvP related event target has resulted in most if not all the Top 50 posting bigger than usual trophy earnings. I agree with comments all over the forum that this has been a fun week.

The current season will end next week, so stay tuned for the Autumn (Spring) Top 20! 😃

Weekly Top 10:

1. Intrim
2. Anonymous
3. A W RYAN
4. Intrim II
5. francaise
6. Hoguns
7. Marshal
8. ratticlub11
9. DarkWarriors
10. Marthos Guardians

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**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 10:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/858 "2017-12-03T10:59:33Z")

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It’s a deluge of trophies at the top of the table [this week](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QKzOpy-0ExsaBrUTkRCQSBgSJ2BihdhNe1dcgCUxYHA)!

Intrim must have got excited by the end of season and cracked out a new weekly record: over 115,000 trophies. Congratulations!

As for the seasonal table, it’s coming shortly…

1. Intrim
2. Anonymous
3. Intrim II
4. Rock$tar
5. Marshal
6. Marthos Guardians
7. Últimos Guardianes
8. A W RYAN
9. DarkWarriors
10. francaise

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**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 11:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/859 "2017-12-03T11:14:32Z")

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Seasonal rankings are based on trophies won between the 27 August 2017 and the 3 December 2017 weekly tables. Newer guilds only have trophies recorded since they reached the Top 50 (or in some cases re-entered the top 50), so their position on this table will be lower than actuality or they don’t appear in the Top 20 (this season).

**Autumn (Spring) 2017 League Top 20**

```
1 Intrim 742,730
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2 Anonymous 576,338
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3 Últimos Guardianes 416,943
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4 TUF: Unrepentant 385,351
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5 Solophobia 367,881
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6 Rock$tar 350,455
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7 Marshal 339,808
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8 Marthos Guardians 339,563
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9 Dominant 338,773
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10 DarkWarriors 331,554
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11 Intrim II 329,651
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12 Hoguns 309,144
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13 francaise 305,329
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14 ratticlub11 303,274
```

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15 Magix 300,871
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16 Tigerclaw 290,878
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17 Black Dragon 267,932
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18 Eternal Empire 261,554
```

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19 Match Masters 258,101
```

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20 Dragon's Peak 256,994
```

Previous tables:  
[Winter (Summer) 2016](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/29)  
[Spring (Autumn) 2016](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/109)  
[Summer (Winter) 2016](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/250)  
[Autumn (Spring) 2016](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/396)  
[Winter (Summer) 2017](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/474)  
[Spring (Autumn) 2017](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/707)  
[Summer (Winter) 2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/791)

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**Author:** ![aurora\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@aurora\_x](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aurora_x)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/860 "2017-12-03T14:13:16Z")

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> [@actreal](#):
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> **Autumn (Spring) 2017 League Top 20**

Why does it say (Spring)?

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/861 "2017-12-03T15:06:28Z")

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Because it is spring in the Southern hemisphere.

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**Author:** ![aurora\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@aurora\_x](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aurora_x)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/862 "2017-12-03T16:09:17Z")

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ah of course 🤦‍♀️ Thx.

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**Author:** ![orbin111](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/orbin111/32/509_2.png) [@orbin111](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/orbin111)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 5:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/863 "2017-12-08T17:21:50Z")

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> [@PGSundling](#):
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> It will be much more difficult for TUF:Unrepentant to close that 4K gap, than the 91K gap with soon to be #7 Marthos Guardians. Assuming it wasn’t all from their guest guild member. (In case a particular person misreads that, I’m not saying Marthos Guardians is #7, but that they will be soon. By soon, I mean this year.)

Hi @PGSundling, I am happy that your prophecy was not accurate. Quite the opposite 😉

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/b/9b669e61ac4740bee19016e01829bf8480eb5ab8.jpg)

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**Author:** ![PGSundling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pgsundling/32/39480_2.png) [@PGSundling](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PGSundling)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/864 "2017-12-08T19:03:04Z")

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> [@PGSundling](#):
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> If TUF:Abaddon was in the top 50, it’s 260K trophies for the season would put it at #10. Noting for next quarter at 351,286 trophies and #84. They will debut in top 50 late next quarter most likely

For TUF:Abaddon, on December 3 653,225 trophies - 351,286 recorded on this thread = 301,939 for the quarter. TUF:Abaddon would have been #15 for the season if they had been in the top 50 the whole time.

They did indeed break into the top 50. That’s one prediction I was correct about.

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**Author:** ![PGSundling](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pgsundling/32/39480_2.png) [@PGSundling](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PGSundling)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/865 "2017-12-08T19:06:06Z")

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At least TUF:Unrepentant closed a lot of that gap, at 55K, it’s much closer than 91K then. It will be a long time to close that gap. Marthos Guardians has definitely stepped up their game.

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**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/top-50-guild-league-table-history/2648/866 "2017-12-08T19:19:48Z")

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Congratulations to our friends from Marthos Guardians for their hard work and their rank 3.  
Only one million trophies left until rank 2. 😛

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