# Token of Cedric, drop rate awry?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630>\
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**Created:** [October 18, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630 "2019-10-18T13:51:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/46 "2019-10-24T06:08:09Z")

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I decided to compile the data of everyone doing big sets (going upward from the bottom up to Neritars set, avoiding duplicates)

Total Samples: 2393

| Submitter | C | R | U | E | L | M |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Voq | 29 | 36 | 101 | 33 | 11 | 9 |
| HugeOgre | 70 | 99 | 182 | 54 | 23 | 7 |
| Fleg | 67 | 90 | 168 | 50 | 16 | 9 |
| TheIdleOne | 33 | 48 | 67 | 13 | 6 | 7 |
| Avathar | 22 | 18 | 40 | 16 | 2 | 0 |
| Clark | 12 | 7 | 34 | 10 | 8 | 0 |
| Mithran | 24 | 43 | 70 | 21 | 9 | 2 |
| Laenir | 22 | 34 | 45 | 11 | 6 | 2 |
| Redi1 | 41 | 70 | 93 | 27 | 7 | 12 |
| Shimrra | 8 | 13 | 28 | 5 | 2 | 1 |
| Neritar | 82 | 78 | 166 | 44 | 26 | 4 |
| TOTALS | 410 | 536 | 994 | 284 | 116 | 53 |
| AVG% | 17.13% | 22.40% | 41.54% | 11.87% | 4.85% | 2.21% |
| Drop Rate Esimate (95% CL) | 15.62%~19.12% | 20.73%~24.59% | 39.56%~44.13% | 10.57%~13.57% | 3.99%~5.98% | 1.63%~2.99% |

If the rates of Cedrics aren’t _intended_ to drop ~40%+, then something is probably wrong, since we are fairly confident they do. We have a 99.9999% confidence level that the true rate of cedrics token drops falls between about 36.5% and 46.5% based on our sample size, so if the “true rate” is supposed to be anything lower than 36%, well, something is _absolutely_ wrong.

However…

We can’t know if something is wrong based on this **because we don’t know how it is supposed to be**. Not likely this will result in a change for the better if it _is_ wrong and it _does_ get noticed… but, based on other stuff that has flown under the radar for ridiculous lengths of time, I think drop rate discussions are on auto-filter for all the staff unless they are directly reported as a bug. And its not going to be me for this one, I don’t feel like having to lobby just for what would, best case, probably result in a nerf, and worst case, be wasted effort. Nysha numbers look depressing, but probably intentionally so.

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