# Token of Cedric, drop rate awry? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [October 18, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630 "2019-10-18T13:51:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clark/32/29631_2.png) [@Clark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/41 "2019-10-20T12:23:00Z")
Thanks @ChunkyMono , after that was mentioned I figured out how to check and verified I was on normal mode. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/42 "2019-10-22T05:56:09Z")
Gaard 67 Yasmine 90 Cedric 168 Aranaea 50 Anu 16 Nysha 9 (my first nysha medal) Cedric = 168 (42%) All others = 232 (58%) ---
**Author:** ![HugeOgre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hugeogre/32/72202_2.png) [@HugeOgre](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HugeOgre)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/43 "2019-10-22T20:14:53Z")
435 collected at L12 70 (16%) Gaard 99 (23%) Yasmine 182 (42%) Cedric 54 (12%) Aranaea 23 (5.2%) Anu 7 (1.6%) Nysha ---
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/44 "2019-10-22T20:22:44Z")
219 at difficulty 12: | Count | Percentage | | --- | --- | | Gaard: 29 Tokens (Common) | 13.2% | | Yasmine: 36 Tokens (Rare) | 16.4% | | Cedric: 101 Tokens (Ultra-Rare) | 46.1% | | Aranaea: 33 Tokens (Epic) | 15.1% | | Anu: 11 Tokens (Legendary) | 5.0% | | Nysha: 9 Tokens (Mythic) | 4.1% | ---
**Author:** ![Globey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/globey/32/57119_2.png) [@Globey](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Globey)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/45 "2019-10-23T16:30:09Z")
LOL I haven’t even equipped anything yet, except that forced Cedric token/badge. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 6:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/46 "2019-10-24T06:08:09Z")
I decided to compile the data of everyone doing big sets (going upward from the bottom up to Neritars set, avoiding duplicates) Total Samples: 2393 | Submitter | C | R | U | E | L | M | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Voq | 29 | 36 | 101 | 33 | 11 | 9 | | HugeOgre | 70 | 99 | 182 | 54 | 23 | 7 | | Fleg | 67 | 90 | 168 | 50 | 16 | 9 | | TheIdleOne | 33 | 48 | 67 | 13 | 6 | 7 | | Avathar | 22 | 18 | 40 | 16 | 2 | 0 | | Clark | 12 | 7 | 34 | 10 | 8 | 0 | | Mithran | 24 | 43 | 70 | 21 | 9 | 2 | | Laenir | 22 | 34 | 45 | 11 | 6 | 2 | | Redi1 | 41 | 70 | 93 | 27 | 7 | 12 | | Shimrra | 8 | 13 | 28 | 5 | 2 | 1 | | Neritar | 82 | 78 | 166 | 44 | 26 | 4 | | TOTALS | 410 | 536 | 994 | 284 | 116 | 53 | | AVG% | 17.13% | 22.40% | 41.54% | 11.87% | 4.85% | 2.21% | | Drop Rate Esimate (95% CL) | 15.62%~19.12% | 20.73%~24.59% | 39.56%~44.13% | 10.57%~13.57% | 3.99%~5.98% | 1.63%~2.99% | If the rates of Cedrics aren’t _intended_ to drop ~40%+, then something is probably wrong, since we are fairly confident they do. We have a 99.9999% confidence level that the true rate of cedrics token drops falls between about 36.5% and 46.5% based on our sample size, so if the “true rate” is supposed to be anything lower than 36%, well, something is _absolutely_ wrong. However… We can’t know if something is wrong based on this **because we don’t know how it is supposed to be**. Not likely this will result in a change for the better if it _is_ wrong and it _does_ get noticed… but, based on other stuff that has flown under the radar for ridiculous lengths of time, I think drop rate discussions are on auto-filter for all the staff unless they are directly reported as a bug. And its not going to be me for this one, I don’t feel like having to lobby just for what would, best case, probably result in a nerf, and worst case, be wasted effort. Nysha numbers look depressing, but probably intentionally so. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 6:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/47 "2019-10-24T06:51:49Z")
I am okay with Cedric (ultra-rare) dropping more often than Gaard (common) or Yasmine (rare). When upgrading troops, you can use any medal of a higher rarity to guarantee success at any of the three eliteness tiers. I upgraded my Tigraki Warrior on a whim, and I used a Medal of Cedric for gold rather than the three Medals of Yasmine it would have otherwise taken to hit 100% upgrade chance. We know that eventually kingdom power levels will require upgraded troops, so I am quite happy if the game showers us with ultra-rare medals in place of common/rare medals that are effective on fewer troops. Now, with all that said, I do think the rate of Epic and higher needs to be adjusted. 2% chance for a token of Nysha means that almost\* nobody will be upgrading mythic troops. \*I am sure there are some users dedicated enough to grinding that they can earn the 6 Medals of Nysha needed to upgrade their mythic troop. But they are a minority of a minority. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/48 "2019-10-24T06:59:03Z")
The rarer they make Nysha medals the more people will buy the inevitable flash offers. I really truly hate this type of ftp sales model. ---
**Author:** ![Meo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Meo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Meo)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630/49 "2019-10-24T22:22:07Z")
Cedric: 17 Gaard: 10 Yasmine: 5 Aranaea: 2 [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/token-of-cedric-drop-rate-awry/58630.md?page=2)