# This is why people are worried about GW. Can anyone explain?
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [March 25, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747 "2017-03-25T22:29:52Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Mahamoti](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mahamoti)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/21 "2017-03-26T00:20:04Z")
I don’t think I’ve ever seen PvP points rewards above the 50’s personally, and even 55-59 is rare.
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/22 "2017-03-26T00:20:13Z")
On what basis you get this amount of points? Once or twice a day?
I think the highest score i got was +57 and that was a long time ago.
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/23 "2017-03-26T00:20:58Z")
> [@Strat](#):
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> +74 after your previous post, Now I know you are cheating. 😉
It’s from last week i also got video showing i won 161 the other day but i didin’t cheat or exploit anything im a fairplay player
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### Author:  [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/24 "2017-03-26T00:23:05Z")
It all makes sense now why I lost #1 on that first week to you ;).
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/25 "2017-03-26T00:24:12Z")
Lol nice try but it was also last week, sended video and screenshot to dev but they suppose to look for a fix and are very top secret about it
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### Author:  [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/26 "2017-03-26T00:24:37Z")
Well secret is out now Ricky.
Good thing you were very quiet about it. I don’t think very many people saw it.
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### Author:  [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/27 "2017-03-26T00:25:16Z")
I haven’t seen anything above 51 in a long, long time. 49 is my usual highest and those are almost always full mythic, fully-traited Wraith / Courage / BD / Famine (or Courage) teams.
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/28 "2017-03-26T00:25:36Z")
> [@HKdirewolf](#):
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> Well secrets out now Ricky.
Now try to figure how to reproduce it and tell me the secret 😛
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### Author:  [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/29 "2017-03-26T00:25:36Z")
Just joking. I know you are a 100% legit player, no need to explain yourself
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### Author:  [@MineralsMan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MineralsMan)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/30 "2017-03-26T00:29:24Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> [https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/optimized/3X/8/4/8442d80fba4501823f7601ad7a8140d9e0ad9e93\_1\_666x500.JPG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/optimized/3X/8/4/8442d80fba4501823f7601ad7a8140d9e0ad9e93_1_666x500.JPG)
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> i won 161 the other day
uuuugh this makes me so jealous. I wish the devs would add a way where you can control the point-matches you get. Like “don’t give me any matches with less than 160 points”. My last LB push was this:
74,084 / 1,406 = a little over 52 points per match. If I were getting 160 per match, I’d have gotten 224,960 points total … shattering the GoW record by over 200%. Hell, just 75 points per match would have let me break the current record with the same amount of matches 😣
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### Author:  [@LHoDarkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LHoDarkness)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/31 "2017-03-26T00:34:24Z")
I think it is possible.
I am in a rank mid 300s guild so no guild statues bonuses and have 8 kingdoms to 7 stars, one 3, one 4, one 5 and the rest 6.
My attack team is rated 8316 and the highest 3 trophies defence team is rated 9400+. Winning a battle against that gives me 65 skull points. I just pvp against teams that gives me the most glories. My average 25671 / 485 gives about 53 skull points. If i was to only do 3 trophies matches I believe my average would be higher.
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### Author:  [@collectorofgems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/collectorofgems)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/32 "2017-03-26T00:35:15Z")
When I started my own guild 3 months ago it was fairly common to see pvp battles with 60-70 pts offerred on the 3 trophy choice. Now though, my choices are between 31 and 50 - and on the low side of that range for an average. Some times going through pvp to climb to tier 1 the choices are 15, 23 and 31. And they don’t vary for quite a few matches. Haven’t really paid attention to it enough to give any thoughts about why it’s doing this but I agree . . . . . the pvp points system is broken and we need it fixed so they can make sure the Guild Wars points system doesn’t do the same thing to us.
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### Author:  [@MineralsMan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MineralsMan)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/33 "2017-03-26T00:43:30Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> i also got video showing i won 161 the other day
Can you post the video for us?
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/34 "2017-03-26T00:49:17Z")
> [@MineralsMan](#):
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> Can you post the video for us?
Not sure if it’s a good idea, i know nothing in hacking but pretty sure someone could figure how to reproduce it and exploit it 🙂
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### Author:  [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/35 "2017-03-26T00:55:53Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> > [@MineralsMan](#):
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> > Can you post the video for us?
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> how to reproduce it and exploit it 🙂
This just confirms PvP scoring is in desperate need of examination. _ **BEFORE** _ Guild Wars.
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### Author:  [@MineralsMan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MineralsMan)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/36 "2017-03-26T00:56:45Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> pretty sure someone could figure how to reproduce it
Why do you think I want to see it 😏 Can you at least pm me a copy privately?
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### Author:  [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 12:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/37 "2017-03-26T00:58:26Z")
> [@MineralsMan](#):
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> Why do you think I want to see it 😏 Can you at least pm me a copy privately?
Lol nice try but there is the screenshot so you know i was not lying 🙂
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### Author:  [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/38 "2017-03-26T01:05:06Z")
Yeah it’s the differential that has me flummoxed. All of his matches would have to have been max and mine minimum (which they weren’t) to have that big of a gap.
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### Author:  [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/39 "2017-03-26T01:06:01Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> so you know i was not lying
I don’t think anyone thought you were ever lying. Cheating to get +161 points per battle and beat @Strat perhaps… 😉 🙂 :(\> ☹ 😮 I think I need a recount.
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### Author:  [@MineralsMan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MineralsMan)
#### Post date: [March 26, 2017, 1:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/40 "2017-03-26T01:09:04Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#):
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> Lol nice try but there is the screenshot so you know i was not lying
Could be photoshop 🕵️♂️ Only way to know for sure is to pm me a copy of the video and I’ll publicly verify it’s authenticity for you.
ps- @Rickygervais What level is your character? Are your kingdoms all lvl 10? Are you in a guild that completes all tasks?
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