# This is not a call out... just a screen shot from pvp **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [January 4, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774 "2024-01-04T13:39:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Shzzu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shzzu/32/100002_2.png) [@Shzzu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shzzu)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/165 "2024-03-10T03:04:29Z")
👉 [Message from the other side](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-opponents-almost-always-with-19k-troops/83508) Ok, I will benefit from the pvp scoring for a while, cos Im in my goldn 1600s. It won’t last long, GoW is the game of changes now ---
**Author:** ![Grundge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e99b99/32.png) [@Grundge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundge)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/166 "2024-03-10T06:08:22Z")
Right now low level players have an edge. This needs to be reversed. I think you should get bonus VP based on your level. I say they make brackets of 500 levels and you get a bonus VP for being in a higher level. That way you’d actually want to be a higher level. Right now they are punishing players for leveling. ---
**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/167 "2024-03-10T21:12:05Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/a/5a6fb4caac1119d1bd799251fd872c3589a2ab5d.jpeg) just leaving this here for the attention of the devs… that 1st and 2nd spot just CRAZY ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/168 "2024-03-10T22:12:23Z")
I hope Soto at least got a shower, a few hours sleep and some food. ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/169 "2024-03-11T01:35:47Z")
Its beyond sad and unfair… I feel bad for Soto my guild mate. That drive anyone away from the game in disappointment and frustration. ---
**Author:** ![JHM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/71c47a/32.png) [@JHM](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JHM)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 5:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/170 "2024-03-11T05:07:48Z")
Is this PC? Playstation leaderboards right now (2 hours before weekly reset) show - 1st place at 600,959 - 2nd place at 500,157 - 3rd place at 454,579 … - 100th place is just 72,039, for comparison, since this picture shows 70k as being 430th. Guess there’s big differences in the leaderboard on various platforms. Also, PandaHappy) and Soto really went for it this week. Well done to them. Just hoping the devs have allowed for getting far higher scores and hitting 1 million won’t go past some boundary and cause problems. Nothing would suprise me, though. ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/171 "2024-03-11T07:01:19Z")
Soto had 12.7k battles this week, getting less points than his competitor, while wasting at least 2.1-2.5x more time. It’s just incredible ---
**Author:** ![Schaafy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Schaafy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schaafy)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 7:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/172 "2024-03-11T07:16:03Z")
not necessarily. unfortunately with the addition of the blood frenzy zones and victory talismans, it is now impossible to even remotely accurately compare two players unless they themselves record what they do. it is possible that soto did not interact with any of the new features and pandahappy did. this alone can explain away up to double the score now. With the level difference this is obviously not the only thing though. we know the issues with pvp scoring, and the devs have doubled down on terrible leaderboard scoring. the devs have literally made the leaderboards completely worthless with this update. the nice thing though is that for individuals, pvp is a quicker experience each week. we have already seen them wave away the point differences as “oh they just chose all the lowest scoring fights” and this just lets the devs ignore it even more. they dont care, and its sad. ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 8:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/173 "2024-03-11T08:38:33Z")
I highly doubt any high-level player will ever avoid Blood frenzy regions, having all the troops and game knowledge. It’s safe to assume he DID played blood frenzy, and even doubled points for high VP battles. But just one thing - he is WAY too high level. I had 90VP battle once per each ~50 battles, with my 1770. Doubt he ever seen a 10 battles for 90VP in his 12800 battles run. It’s crazy how unbalanced the system is towards new players. Wish I had never bought that 100% XP armor. ---
**Author:** ![ANGI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@ANGI](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ANGI)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/174 "2024-03-11T12:43:07Z")
you can put DK armor off ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 12:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/175 "2024-03-11T12:47:35Z")
won’t rollback levels I’ve already got ---
**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/176 "2024-03-11T14:06:31Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/e/7e7c9e719e4b2d8b0915263693e31c8345bafc45.jpeg) top 3 in my league (im lucien)… i used talisman for every battle and picked the highest vp… lv 1400 almost same battles 2000 vp more ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/177 "2024-03-11T16:22:47Z")
> **Summary** > > | # | Player level | | | | Base VP | | | | Final score | > | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | > | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | | > | 1 | 1128 | 1184 | 1895 | | 25 | 25 | 35 | | 126 | > | 2 | 1128 | 1184 | 1834 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 112 | > | 3 | 1128 | 1184 | 1549 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 106 | > | 4 | 1128 | 1184 | 1585 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 108 | > | 5 | 1184 | 1128 | 1414 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 96 | > | 6 | 1128 | 1184 | 1380 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 96 | > | 7 | 1128 | 1184 | 1646 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 104 | > | 8 | 1128 | 1184 | 1837 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 120 | > | 9 | 1184 | 1128 | 1470 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 104 | > | 10 | 1128 | 1184 | 1832 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 120 | > | 11 | 1128 | 1184 | 1300 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 104 | > | 12 | 1184 | 1128 | 1929 | | 25 | 25 | 37 | | 120 | > | 13 | 1128 | 1184 | 1805 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 116 | > | 14 | 1128 | 1184 | 1867 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 126 | > | 15 | 1184 | 1128 | 1409 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 108 | > | 16 | 1184 | 1128 | 1725 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 108 | > | 17 | 1128 | 1184 | 1548 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 96 | > | 18 | 1184 | 1128 | 1805 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 120 | > | 19 | 1128 | 1184 | 1700 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 112 | > | 20 | 1128 | 1184 | 2042 | | 25 | 25 | 41 | | 136 | > | 21 | 1184 | 1128 | 1358 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 98 | > | 22 | 1128 | 1184 | 1619 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 108 | > | 23 | 1128 | 1184 | 1689 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 102 | > | 24 | 1128 | 1184 | 1636 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 102 | > | 25 | 1128 | 1184 | 1656 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 108 | > | 26 | 1128 | 1184 | 1895 | | 25 | 25 | 35 | | 116 | > | 27 | 1184 | 1128 | 1358 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 102 | > | 28 | 1128 | 1184 | 2210 | | 25 | 25 | 48 | | 146 | > | 29 | 1128 | 1184 | 1670 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 108 | > | 30 | 1128 | 1184 | 1898 | | 25 | 25 | 36 | | 124 | > | 31 | 1128 | 1184 | 1663 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 106 | > | 32 | 1128 | 1184 | 1454 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 90 | > | 33 | 1128 | 1184 | 1607 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 104 | > | 34 | 1128 | 1184 | 1307 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 92 | > | 35 | 1128 | 1184 | 1772 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 110 | > | 36 | 1184 | 1128 | 1433 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 102 | > | 37 | 1128 | 1184 | 2060 | | 25 | 25 | 42 | | 120 | > | 38 | 1184 | 1128 | 1627 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 96 | > | 39 | 1184 | 1128 | 1996 | | 25 | 25 | 40 | | 124 | > | 40 | 1128 | 1184 | 1477 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 106 | > | 41 | 1128 | 1184 | 1685 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 110 | > | 42 | 1128 | 1184 | 1982 | | 25 | 25 | 39 | | 124 | > | 43 | 1128 | 1184 | 1460 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 100 | > | 44 | 1184 | 1128 | 1454 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 102 | > | 45 | 1128 | 1184 | 2109 | | 25 | 25 | 44 | | 132 | > | 46 | 1128 | 1184 | 1521 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 96 | > | 47 | 1184 | 1128 | 1598 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 90 | > | 48 | 1128 | 1184 | 1722 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 112 | > | 49 | 1128 | 1184 | 1627 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 86 | > | 50 | 1128 | 1184 | 1474 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 88 | > | 51 | 1128 | 1184 | 1269 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 96 | > | 52 | 1128 | 1184 | 1414 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 108 | > | 53 | 1128 | 1184 | 1366 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 94 | > | 54 | 1128 | 1184 | 1708 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 86 | > | 55 | 1184 | 1128 | 1574 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 102 | > | 56 | 1128 | 1184 | 1582 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 108 | > | 57 | 1128 | 1184 | 1638 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 96 | > | 58 | 1128 | 1184 | 1672 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 114 | > | 59 | 1128 | 1184 | 1709 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 110 | > | 60 | 1184 | 1128 | 1456 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 102 | > | 61 | 1128 | 1184 | 1689 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 100 | Green restriction (whatever the name was) with bloodfrenzy (no VP talismans used) this time around - reaching PvP goals went a bit faster. However, a funny thing you might notice - while there is some variation for the right slot, left & middle options are the same two profiles every single game. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/178 "2024-03-11T16:31:21Z")
> [@Dust\_Angel](#): > > However, a funny thing you might notice - while there is some variation for the right slot, left & middle options are the same two profiles every single game. Wow. It seems to only replace the player you picked to battle. The other two players are still offered, just with a newly generated team. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/179 "2024-03-11T16:57:16Z")
It’s just that before (one can scroll up and find my previous post with data; not further in the past, though, as I was chasing silver marks then) all three choice were refreshed. Ehh, I just really don’t feel like testing out what happens in other locations, but something might be off. ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/180 "2024-03-13T04:23:00Z")
TY - totally forgot about this. Just switched to dwarven. I’ll miss my 100% gold bonus but I would rather slow down xp gains at this point. Hopefully they’ll make the changes as discussed in the 7.4 patch notes, and then I can switch back. I’m at 1727, played for an hour today and maybe got 5 battles in the 70’s. No 90’s at all. Pfffffffftttttttt. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/181 "2024-03-13T06:19:09Z")
I am like level 1770+ how much does PvP affect me when it comes to the point reductions? ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/182 "2024-03-13T09:05:23Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > I am like level 1770+ how much does PvP affect me when it comes to the point reductions? You’ll need to fight players at least level 2270 to get full points. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![alansirer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@alansirer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alansirer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/183 "2024-03-13T09:26:02Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > It seems to only replace the player you picked to battle. The other two players are still offered, just with a newly generated team. its true,maybe this is the problem to not see 70-80-90 VP or max players levels,because replaced only picked player. ---
**Author:** ![alansirer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/46a35a/32.png) [@alansirer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/alansirer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/184 "2024-03-13T09:39:22Z")
test…test play with gems veteran mike ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/4/040dfd29c0e7ef04d7eb422744801d584b4cce17.jpeg) 1st and 2nd is same,play now with prinz ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/a/0a5e5f1dee46babed0007b8dd8b6c9963d03a797.jpeg) 1st same,amds now is 2nd from 3rd…play with dodirty ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/f/7f3ff02518d8ec7ed60047ff278bb104e57fe5fd.jpeg) amds going 1st,stringer from 3rd now 2nd ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/0/6015ef81d17012c193c70fa7503a460f4a12d054.jpeg) another 2 images play with ams now,but not going 1st place stringer ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/1/616241e07ef1637ae8aff635668e4798008a81fd.jpeg) play with stringer smokey from 1st going 2nd ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/7/b7dbae2ce2882a1e527b0611deb50b28a5c2af04.jpeg) [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774.md?page=8) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774.md?page=10)