# This is not a call out... just a screen shot from pvp **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [January 4, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774 "2024-01-04T13:39:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![panda-zebra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/panda-zebra/32/93362_2.png) [@panda-zebra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/panda-zebra)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 9:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/125 "2024-01-12T09:12:28Z")
> [@Lucien](#): > > when is war and peace vol.2 out šŸ¤£ Best post in thread though. Iā€™m here for part 2 if and when it comes. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 10:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/126 "2024-01-12T10:02:08Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > Basically: > > - Ditch player level differential to determine base PvP point payout and go back to team score differential (OR completely redo the player level curve so that disparities in level start mattering a lot less by level 1500 or so) > - Minimum cap the VP payout to which slot offering it is similar to what the old PvP system did. > - If necessary flatten the curve a bit so score discrepancies matter less (19k vs 20k does not have the same power discrepancy as 1k vs 2k) > - Bonus victory points for playing in a restricted region (starting next season when heros get unleashed) to further incentive playing these regions where occasionally having higher stats is a bit more meaningful. To propose another very simple and much more resilient approach, make all three battle options each offer a fixed amount of rewards, e.g. 1500 gold/35 VP on the left, 2000 gold/50 VP in the middle, 2500 gold/65 VP on the right. Then assign opponents to the slots based on whatever convoluted metrics the game internally works on, without adjusting the fixed rewards. To promote a region, offer a better fixed reward for those (e.g. an extra 500 gold/10 VP for the left/middle/right battle when playing a color restricted region). ---
**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 10:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/127 "2024-01-12T10:11:17Z")
you need to visit Australia and start a hostile take over of IP2. šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 9:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/128 "2024-01-22T09:26:21Z")
![Screenshot_20240122-172127437](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/9/39e19540d004982c654961aa97472fbcdb0c5df2.jpeg) > [@Kafka](#): > > the team still need to check the implementation of VP and the live game data now to find out the source of the issue 11 days laterā€¦ šŸ¤ šŸ–– ---
**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 9:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/129 "2024-01-22T09:36:29Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/a/faf19f2817ee6115c225723b9b28e709c8a77c71.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/130 "2024-01-22T18:39:59Z")
@Kafka, any progress so far? Have they even been looking at this stuff or is it just a priority on paper? > **Summary** > > | # | Player level | | | | Base VP | | | | Final score | Bonus points | > | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | > | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | | | > | | | | | | | | | | | | > | 1 | 1508 | 1493 | 1507 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 56 | 31 | > | 2 | 1317 | 1417 | 2035 | | 25 | 25 | 42 | | 74 | 32 | > | 3 | 1426 | 1492 | 1523 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 4 | 1214 | 1317 | 1454 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 5 | 1234 | 1416 | 1443 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 6 | 1308 | 1577 | 1838 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 62 | 28 | > | 7 | 1461 | 1634 | 1877 | | 25 | 26 | 36 | | 64 | 28 | > | 8 | 1344 | 1373 | 1713 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 57 | 28 | > | 9 | 1352 | 1510 | 1522 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 10 | 1393 | 1555 | 1756 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 56 | 25 | > | 11 | 1479 | 2040 | 1908 | | 25 | 42 | 37 | | 72 | 30 | > | 12 | 1461 | 1646 | 1613 | | 25 | 26 | 25 | | 54 | 28 | > | 13 | 1231 | 1616 | 1533 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 50 | 25 | > | 14 | 1257 | 1312 | 1373 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 48 | 23 | > | 15 | 1480 | 1634 | 1457 | | 25 | 26 | 25 | | 51 | 25 | > | 16 | 1199 | 1315 | 1465 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 17 | 1274 | 1311 | 1762 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 53 | 22 | > | 18 | 1334 | 1424 | 1797 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 54 | 22 | > | 19 | 1304 | 1371 | 1472 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 47 | 22 | > | 20 | 1560 | 1630 | 1486 | | 25 | 26 | 25 | | 51 | 25 | > | 21 | 1154 | 1476 | 1470 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 22 | 1284 | 1502 | 1680 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 56 | 28 | > | 23 | 1076 | 1346 | 1519 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 47 | 22 | > | 24 | 1440 | 1759 | 1775 | | 25 | 31 | 32 | | 58 | 26 | > | 25 | 1189 | 1165 | 1363 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 41 | 16 | > | 26 | 1566 | 1526 | 1657 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 50 | 23 | > | 27 | 1343 | 1763 | 1977 | | 25 | 31 | 40 | | 66 | 26 | > | 28 | 2070 | 1360 | 1648 | | 43 | 25 | 26 | | 70 | 27 | > | 29 | 1217 | 1501 | 1373 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 41 | 16 | > | 30 | 2070 | 1665 | 1977 | | 43 | 27 | 40 | | 62 | 19 | > | 31 | 1276 | 1406 | 1829 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 63 | 29 | > | 32 | 1195 | 1471 | 1550 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 33 | 1170 | 1239 | 1283 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 34 | 1344 | 1577 | 1475 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 56 | 31 | > | 35 | 1451 | 1865 | 1720 | | 25 | 35 | 29 | | 60 | 25 | > | 36 | 1461 | 1489 | 1328 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 37 | 1486 | 1761 | 1687 | | 25 | 31 | 28 | | 57 | 26 | > | 38 | 1139 | 1299 | 1815 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 65 | 32 | > | 39 | 1502 | 1538 | 1508 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 40 | 1299 | 1407 | 1463 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 55 | 30 | > | 41 | 1405 | 1286 | 1346 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 55 | 30 | > | 42 | 1177 | 1680 | 1595 | | 25 | 28 | 25 | | 49 | 21 | > | 43 | 1084 | 1229 | 1830 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 57 | 23 | > | 44 | 1158 | 1432 | 1503 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 45 | 1463 | 1419 | 2660 | | 25 | 25 | 82 | | 103 | 21 | > | 46 | 1483 | 1689 | 1947 | | 25 | 28 | 38 | | 65 | 27 | > | 47 | 1228 | 1368 | 1649 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 44 | 17 | > | 48 | 1265 | 1882 | 1485 | | 25 | 36 | 25 | | 66 | 30 | > | 49 | 1296 | 1317 | 1733 | | 25 | 25 | 30 | | 64 | 34 | > | 50 | 1175 | 1511 | 1686 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 61 | 33 | > | 51 | 1185 | 1361 | 1726 | | 25 | 25 | 30 | | 50 | 20 | > | 52 | 1390 | 1361 | 1717 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 51 | 22 | > | 53 | 1209 | 1482 | 1992 | | 25 | 25 | 40 | | 62 | 22 | > | 54 | 1822 | 1506 | 1640 | | 33 | 25 | 26 | | 56 | 23 | > | 55 | 1329 | 1292 | 1537 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 42 | 17 | > | 56 | 1327 | 1684 | 1394 | | 25 | 28 | 25 | | 52 | 24 | > | 57 | 1133 | 1611 | 1487 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 58 | 1064 | 1192 | 1742 | | 25 | 25 | 30 | | 51 | 21 | > | 59 | 1486 | 1522 | 1568 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 43 | 18 | > | 60 | 1329 | 2395 | 1611 | | 25 | 62 | 25 | | 80 | 18 | > | 61 | 1316 | 1463 | 1616 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 50 | 25 | > | 62 | 1411 | 1487 | 1508 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 63 | 1299 | 1299 | 1585 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 49 | 24 | > | 64 | 1191 | 1512 | 1395 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 65 | 1299 | 1321 | 1568 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 66 | 1460 | 1540 | 1715 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 53 | 24 | > | 67 | 1669 | 1365 | 2092 | | 27 | 25 | 44 | | 69 | 25 | > | 68 | 1302 | 1534 | 1608 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 49 | 24 | > | 69 | 1243 | 1287 | 1463 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 70 | 1355 | 1424 | 1532 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 71 | 1241 | 1203 | 1545 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 72 | 1165 | 1374 | 1760 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 63 | 32 | > | 73 | 1172 | 1254 | 1434 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 74 | 1206 | 1253 | 1529 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 75 | 1371 | 1490 | 1444 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 76 | 1191 | 1448 | 1384 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 56 | 31 | > | 77 | 1283 | 1498 | 1408 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 78 | 1281 | 1551 | 1790 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 61 | 29 | > | 79 | 1426 | 2059 | 1805 | | 25 | 43 | 33 | | 69 | 26 | > | 80 | 1191 | 1790 | 1631 | | 25 | 32 | 26 | | 65 | 33 | > | 81 | 1489 | 1382 | 1377 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 82 | 1326 | 1388 | 1709 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 61 | 32 | > | 83 | 1252 | 1296 | 2630 | | 25 | 25 | 80 | | 101 | 21 | > | 84 | 2138 | 1559 | 1926 | | 46 | 25 | 38 | | 69 | 23 | > | 85 | 1172 | 1236 | 1386 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 58 | 33 | > | 86 | 1106 | 1169 | 1457 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 87 | 1616 | 1414 | 1399 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 88 | 1286 | 1250 | 1674 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 60 | 32 | > | 89 | 1064 | 1403 | 1405 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 90 | 1285 | 1486 | 1508 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 91 | 1405 | 1592 | 1760 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 56 | 25 | > | 92 | 1123 | 1423 | 2049 | | 25 | 25 | 43 | | 72 | 29 | > | 93 | 1185 | 1363 | 1688 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 57 | 29 | > | 94 | 1055 | 1095 | 1334 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 95 | 1405 | 1316 | 1619 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 48 | 23 | > | 96 | 1069 | 1031 | 1177 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 97 | 1300 | 1533 | 1559 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 49 | 24 | > | 98 | 1392 | 1502 | 1646 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 55 | 29 | > | 99 | 1058 | 1219 | 1397 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 55 | 30 | > | 100 | 1189 | 1533 | 1641 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 50 | 24 | > | 101 | 1040 | 1292 | 1537 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 102 | 1445 | 1481 | 1630 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 59 | 33 | > | 103 | 1358 | 1457 | 1703 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 51 | 22 | > | 104 | 1025 | 1356 | 1522 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 105 | 1449 | 1772 | 1744 | | 25 | 31 | 30 | | 61 | 30 | > | 106 | 1190 | 1352 | 1543 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 55 | 30 | > | 107 | 1203 | 1236 | 1522 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 108 | 1776 | 1925 | 1745 | | 32 | 38 | 30 | | 64 | 26 | > | 109 | 1266 | 1418 | 1637 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 53 | 27 | > | 110 | 1161 | 1313 | 1449 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 56 | 31 | > | 111 | 1112 | 2049 | 1916 | | 25 | 43 | 37 | | 67 | 24 | > | 112 | 1346 | 1585 | 1880 | | 25 | 25 | 36 | | 68 | 32 | > | 113 | 1393 | 1237 | 1517 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 56 | 31 | > | 114 | 1305 | 1239 | 1465 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 46 | 21 | > | 115 | 1488 | 2178 | 1680 | | 25 | 48 | 28 | | 80 | 32 | 115 games this week to reach PvP goals - 77% of all choices were 25 base VP. For how longer will high level players be suffering form your teamā€™s oversight or mistakes or incompetence or call is whatever you will - maybe even deliberate decision to screw those useless high level players over? ---
**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/131 "2024-01-22T19:35:17Z")
At 60 there was a 62. So unfortunately working as intended. ā˜¹ Even though I still would get that on a regular basis, all the recent changes and dubious decisions let to me dropping from 70.000 VP to 10.000 VP in less than 2 weeks and I donā€™t even know if Iā€™d do more than 5000 VP this week. Tendency falling ā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Dwuemka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dwuemka/32/67058_2.png) [@Dwuemka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dwuemka)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 5:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/132 "2024-01-23T05:46:54Z")
Yeah, still happening. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/1/41fcdc33c002bd794c79f7c984a8c020fd14bb36.jpeg) What an amazing choice of VP scores for the battles. Please, can we have an explanation, or at least some info whether this needs a client update, and how much longer we have to wait for any solution to this? So that we know what to expect and when/whether to expect a fix at all? Iā€™m not even 2k yet (1726), and this is not a rare view ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2024, 7:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/133 "2024-01-23T07:17:30Z")
Level 1860 My around the regions snapshots, just after reset this morning. Shocking in comparison to Dwuemkaā€™s Lev 1408 snapshots above ! (18 posts up) ![IMG_1177](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/3/f37331f34289940ba51dd8e9538643c7f63a16a7.jpeg) ![IMG_1176](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/e/9ee5b1e65aff7b6ae4031541206a71411fdf6301.jpeg) ![IMG_1175](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/f/5fc7e42a3685e01ce8f8c445801c3dc088cd111c.jpeg) ![IMG_1174](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/f/9f6c980a71d7c37c186155fe18219df369b01531.jpeg) ![IMG_1173](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/f/4f8ab9ffdf0cd39ab8520440207db3592ab83c8d.jpeg) ![IMG_1172](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/c/cc265297ade02395fb6346fd7c3971ba2cc9b74d.jpeg) ![IMG_1171](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/1/b1d6b162be8aa8714aab993657a4274e27d230e4.jpeg) ![IMG_1170](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/d/6d2cfb2ee0647284d684b620999816014c84bcf3.jpeg) ![IMG_1169](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/d/bdc6b939f2d4bdb86a05da930f25064188a8a8be.jpeg) ![IMG_1168](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/1/71a629bfecfed63d8caf6f2fd707698cd26c9231.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/134 "2024-01-24T00:30:37Z")
Following up on this with the team. I know theyā€™ve been working on streamlining some stuff which will give us back more time to use on other things, so Iā€™m hoping when that is finalised this will be prioritised more. ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/135 "2024-01-24T01:12:13Z")
Thanks for keeping the lines of communication open on this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/136 "2024-01-30T16:42:23Z")
New week and new worst result. > **Summary** > > | # | Player level | | | | Base VP | | | | Final score | Bonus points | > | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | > | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | | | > | 1 | 1263 | 1260 | 1412 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 42 | 17 | > | 2 | 1256 | 1264 | 1254 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 46 | 21 | > | 3 | 1288 | 1600 | 1831 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 62 | 28 | > | 4 | 1113 | 1482 | 1616 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 49 | 24 | > | 5 | 1334 | 1683 | 1595 | | 25 | 28 | 25 | | 56 | 28 | > | 6 | 1234 | 1424 | 1525 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 7 | 1380 | 1450 | 1520 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 8 | 1092 | 1334 | 1804 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 56 | 23 | > | 9 | 1064 | 1255 | 1347 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 10 | 1397 | 1470 | 1804 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 64 | 31 | > | 11 | 1226 | 1202 | 1711 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 60 | 31 | > | 12 | 1677 | 1541 | 1632 | | 27 | 25 | 26 | | 59 | 32 | > | 13 | 1388 | 1522 | 2176 | | 25 | 25 | 47 | | 66 | 19 | > | 14 | 1353 | 1425 | 1708 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 55 | 26 | > | 15 | 1285 | 1516 | 2172 | | 25 | 25 | 47 | | 58 | 11 | > | 16 | 1270 | 1246 | 1251 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 48 | 23 | > | 17 | 1235 | 1519 | 1473 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 46 | 21 | > | 18 | 1478 | 1793 | 1571 | | 25 | 32 | 25 | | 58 | 26 | > | 19 | 1208 | 1676 | 1912 | | 25 | 27 | 37 | | 64 | 27 | > | 20 | 1473 | 1705 | 1784 | | 25 | 29 | 32 | | 51 | 19 | > | 21 | 1237 | 1934 | 1716 | | 25 | 38 | 29 | | 51 | 13 | > | 22 | 1400 | 1705 | 1391 | | 25 | 29 | 25 | | 49 | 20 | > | 23 | 1328 | 1973 | 1634 | | 25 | 39 | 26 | | 56 | 17 | > | 24 | 1249 | 1769 | 1570 | | 25 | 31 | 25 | | 54 | 23 | > | 25 | 1409 | 1563 | 1561 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 42 | 17 | > | 26 | 1312 | 1359 | 1501 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 27 | 1546 | 1630 | 1609 | | 25 | 26 | 25 | | 49 | 23 | > | 28 | 1503 | 1483 | 1684 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 46 | 18 | > | 29 | 1630 | 1544 | 1961 | | 26 | 25 | 39 | | 66 | 27 | > | 30 | 1117 | 1307 | 1519 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 31 | 1116 | 1609 | 1784 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 57 | 25 | > | 32 | 1514 | 1650 | 1538 | | 25 | 26 | 25 | | 55 | 29 | > | 33 | 1277 | 1519 | 1609 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 34 | 1332 | 1440 | 2259 | | 25 | 25 | 51 | | 74 | 23 | > | 35 | 1483 | 1577 | 1935 | | 25 | 25 | 38 | | 60 | 22 | > | 36 | 1277 | 1724 | 1788 | | 25 | 29 | 32 | | 59 | 27 | > | 37 | 1116 | 1680 | 1784 | | 25 | 28 | 32 | | 57 | 25 | > | 38 | 1303 | 1559 | 1620 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 47 | 22 | > | 39 | 1271 | 1348 | 1488 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 40 | 1151 | 1599 | 1680 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 59 | 31 | > | 41 | 1620 | 1658 | 1663 | | 25 | 27 | 27 | | 55 | 28 | > | 42 | 1169 | 1433 | 1613 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 43 | 1287 | 1528 | 1726 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 54 | 25 | > | 44 | 1188 | 1718 | 1738 | | 25 | 29 | 30 | | 58 | 28 | > | 45 | 1013 | 1329 | 1667 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 55 | 28 | > | 46 | 1327 | 1567 | 1977 | | 25 | 25 | 39 | | 58 | 19 | > | 47 | 1195 | 1088 | 1529 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 48 | 1373 | 1415 | 1601 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 55 | 30 | > | 49 | 1270 | 1235 | 1980 | | 25 | 25 | 40 | | 67 | 27 | > | 50 | 1189 | 1365 | 1592 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 51 | 1439 | 1973 | 1652 | | 25 | 39 | 26 | | 54 | 15 | > | 52 | 1690 | 1638 | 1931 | | 28 | 26 | 38 | | 62 | 24 | > | 53 | 1117 | 1662 | 1966 | | 25 | 27 | 39 | | 66 | 27 | > | 54 | 1442 | 667 | 1711 | | 25 | 27 | 29 | | 61 | 32 | > | 55 | 1586 | 1478 | 1638 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 57 | 31 | > | 56 | 1285 | 1489 | 1706 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 40 | 11 | > | 57 | 1320 | 1597 | 1402 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 46 | 21 | > | 58 | 1475 | 1717 | 1707 | | 25 | 29 | 29 | | 51 | 22 | > | 59 | 1274 | 1406 | 2183 | | 25 | 25 | 48 | | 66 | 18 | > | 60 | 1723 | 1516 | 1808 | | 29 | 25 | 33 | | 46 | 13 | > | 61 | 1350 | 1649 | 1737 | | 25 | 26 | 30 | | 48 | 18 | > | 62 | 1251 | 1597 | 1483 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 47 | 22 | > | 63 | 1195 | 1385 | 1663 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 54 | 27 | > | 64 | 1421 | 1483 | 1660 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 51 | 24 | > | 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> | 99 | 1392 | 1469 | 1874 | | 25 | 25 | 35 | | 57 | 22 | > | 100 | 1223 | 1335 | 1594 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 47 | 22 | > | 101 | 1139 | 1483 | 1623 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 102 | 1398 | 1914 | 1524 | | 25 | 37 | 25 | | 66 | 29 | > | 103 | 1356 | 1508 | 1519 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 104 | 1053 | 1562 | 1685 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 57 | 29 | > | 105 | 1240 | 1414 | 1398 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 56 | 31 | > | 106 | 1011 | 1427 | 2072 | | 25 | 25 | 43 | | 69 | 26 | > | 107 | 1450 | 1646 | 1740 | | 25 | 26 | 30 | | 59 | 29 | > | 108 | 1244 | 1366 | 1408 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 55 | 30 | > | 109 | 1254 | 1366 | 1727 | | 25 | 25 | 29 | | 58 | 29 | > | 110 | 1242 | 1237 | 1680 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 57 | 29 | > | 111 | 1579 | 1945 | 1832 | | 25 | 39 | 34 | | 59 | 20 | > | 112 | 1488 | 1478 | 1548 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 113 | 1382 | 1623 | 1759 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 62 | 31 | > | 114 | 1258 | 1579 | 1745 | | 25 | 25 | 30 | | 58 | 28 | > | 115 | 1478 | 1476 | 1759 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 45 | 14 | > | 116 | 1426 | 1577 | 1553 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 117 | 1437 | 1393 | 1755 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 54 | 23 | > | 118 | 1599 | 1623 | 1617 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 119 | 2075 | 1562 | 1780 | | 43 | 25 | 32 | | 73 | 30 | This time it took 119 games for finishing PvP goalsā€¦ How is that ā€œstreamlining stuffā€ moving along and when can we hope to expect to see some progress that is more than just promises of progress when cows come home? Surely, you mustā€™ve thought through and analyzed what would be the effects of implementing matchmaking/point distribution in its current state and had a clear picture of how disastrously it would turn out, right? Oh, and the more I look at whole bonus VP shenanigans, the more I dislike and am annoyed by that junk of a stupid system as currently implemented. ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/137 "2024-02-05T07:21:55Z")
![Screenshot_20240205-151841689](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/4/248bcbc586e541980e5335ea76714e84c7b80439.jpeg) > [@Kafka](#): > > the team still need to check the implementation of VP and the live game data now to find out the source of the issue 25 days laterā€¦ šŸ¤ šŸ–– ---
**Author:** ![Elfin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/258eb7/32.png) [@Elfin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elfin)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/138 "2024-02-05T14:45:59Z")
Hi - any chance you could give us a more specific timeline? Should we be expecting that this will get fixed in the next release? Before that? After that? What really ticks people off is not knowing when a fix will be coming. If you could ask again for an update, that would be much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Lerena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lerena/32/99960_2.png) [@Lerena](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lerena)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/139 "2024-02-05T18:56:07Z")
Hello. I see a lot of players wanting more specific information in regards to a fix and I think an estimation like a few months or 6 months would help a lot. While Iā€™d like a shorter timeframe than this in terms of a fix, I respect honesty and believe the rest of the player-base would appreciate the response regardless of how they feel about it. All we need is a rough idea and I understand this may not be viewed as top priority, but players need to know where on the list this issue is likely to be. Knowing if weā€™re waiting weeks or months would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/140 "2024-02-05T19:46:10Z")
Another week, same old. 118 games for PvP goals this time. > **Summary** > > | # | Player level | | | | Base VP | | | | Final score | Bonus points | > | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | > | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 1 | 2 | 3 | | | | > | 1 | 1214 | 1453 | 1560 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 43 | 18 | > | 2 | 1109 | 1575 | 1705 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 44 | 16 | > | 3 | 1157 | 1367 | 1513 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 41 | 16 | > | 4 | 1312 | 1366 | 1433 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 39 | 14 | > | 5 | 1443 | 1562 | 1476 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 43 | 18 | > | 6 | 1340 | 1516 | 1543 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 7 | 1094 | 1515 | 1630 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 8 | 1444 | 1494 | 1403 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 9 | 1279 | 1562 | 1840 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 66 | 32 | > | 10 | 1215 | 1116 | 1355 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 56 | 31 | > | 11 | 1403 | 1606 | 2076 | | 25 | 25 | 43 | | 69 | 26 | > | 12 | 1232 | 1183 | 1561 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 46 | 21 | > | 13 | 1480 | 1746 | 2262 | | 25 | 30 | 51 | | 77 | 26 | > | 14 | 1423 | 1446 | 1550 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 15 | 1270 | 1441 | 1778 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 53 | 22 | > | 16 | 1236 | 1341 | 1413 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 46 | 21 | > | 17 | 1323 | 1698 | 1843 | | 25 | 28 | 34 | | 59 | 25 | > | 18 | 1157 | 1329 | 1818 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 54 | 21 | > | 19 | 1245 | 1546 | 1579 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 40 | 15 | > | 20 | 1212 | 1863 | 1584 | | 25 | 35 | 25 | | 58 | 23 | > | 21 | 1193 | 1374 | 1759 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 59 | 28 | > | 22 | 1346 | 1266 | 2087 | | 25 | 25 | 44 | | 76 | 32 | > | 23 | 1089 | 1719 | 1973 | | 25 | 29 | 39 | | 71 | 32 | > | 24 | 1719 | 1802 | 1780 | | 29 | 32 | 31 | | 62 | 30 | > | 25 | 1162 | 1204 | 1592 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 32 | > | 26 | 1201 | 1536 | 1647 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 44 | 18 | > | 27 | 1488 | 2184 | 2174 | | 25 | 48 | 47 | | 62 | 14 | > | 28 | 1320 | 1392 | 1664 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 47 | 20 | > | 29 | 1489 | 1584 | 1829 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 55 | 22 | > | 30 | 1005 | 1226 | 1466 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 49 | 24 | > | 31 | 1354 | 1277 | 1517 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 55 | 30 | > | 32 | 1425 | 1565 | 2441 | | 25 | 25 | 65 | | 96 | 31 | > | 33 | 1232 | 1560 | 1772 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 62 | 31 | > | 34 | 1086 | 1825 | 1578 | | 25 | 33 | 25 | | 60 | 27 | > | 35 | 1317 | 1780 | 1560 | | 25 | 31 | 25 | | 55 | 24 | > | 36 | 1223 | 1591 | 1526 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 37 | 1411 | 1313 | 1582 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 36 | 11 | > | 38 | 1258 | 1365 | 1857 | | 25 | 25 | 35 | | 64 | 29 | > | 39 | 1505 | 1527 | 2034 | | 25 | 25 | 42 | | 63 | 21 | > | 40 | 1267 | 1391 | 1678 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 52 | 25 | > | 41 | 1470 | 1630 | 1565 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 42 | 1148 | 1370 | 1790 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 60 | 28 | > | 43 | 1335 | 1418 | 1466 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 44 | 1543 | 1397 | 1829 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 59 | 26 | > | 45 | 1262 | 1466 | 1801 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 63 | 31 | > | 46 | 1418 | 1490 | 1643 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 50 | 24 | > | 47 | 1284 | 1492 | 1512 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 48 | 1323 | 1727 | 1833 | | 25 | 29 | 34 | | 63 | 29 | > | 49 | 1488 | 1687 | 1546 | | 25 | 28 | 25 | | 48 | 20 | > | 50 | 1362 | 1368 | 1472 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 49 | 24 | > | 51 | 1365 | 1462 | 1883 | | 25 | 25 | 36 | | 50 | 14 | > | 52 | 1488 | 1445 | 2105 | | 25 | 25 | 44 | | 66 | 22 | > | 53 | 1425 | 1491 | 1685 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 52 | 24 | > | 54 | 1682 | 1512 | 1785 | | 28 | 25 | 32 | | 61 | 29 | > | 55 | 1310 | 1687 | 1829 | | 25 | 28 | 33 | | 65 | 32 | > | 56 | 1215 | 1542 | 1610 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 48 | 23 | > | 57 | 1070 | 1489 | 1660 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 53 | 26 | > | 58 | 1270 | 1375 | 2081 | | 25 | 25 | 43 | | 63 | 20 | > | 59 | 1210 | 1512 | 1833 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 54 | 20 | > | 60 | 1270 | 1660 | 1838 | | 25 | 27 | 34 | | 56 | 22 | > | 61 | 1362 | 1478 | 1470 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 44 | 19 | > | 62 | 1493 | 1674 | 1500 | | 25 | 27 | 25 | | 55 | 28 | > | 63 | 1425 | 1446 | 1671 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 55 | 28 | > | 64 | 1360 | 1578 | 1833 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 51 | 17 | > | 65 | 1071 | 1502 | 1685 | | 25 | 25 | 28 | | 48 | 20 | > | 66 | 1179 | 1420 | 1520 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 67 | 1393 | 1591 | 1396 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 54 | 29 | > | 68 | 1491 | 1480 | 1829 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 65 | 32 | > | 69 | 1473 | 1637 | 1838 | | 25 | 26 | 34 | | 65 | 31 | > | 70 | 1721 | 1581 | 1750 | | 29 | 25 | 30 | | 62 | 32 | > | 71 | 1707 | 1631 | 1838 | | 29 | 25 | 34 | | 62 | 28 | > | 72 | 1288 | 1801 | 1699 | | 25 | 32 | 28 | | 55 | 23 | > | 73 | 1061 | 1527 | 1537 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 43 | 18 | > | 74 | 1306 | 1208 | 1838 | | 25 | 25 | 34 | | 49 | 15 | > | 75 | 1280 | 1507 | 1427 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 37 | 12 | > | 76 | 1430 | 1689 | 1760 | | 25 | 28 | 31 | | 57 | 26 | > | 77 | 1491 | 1428 | 2514 | | 25 | 25 | 70 | | 91 | 21 | > | 78 | 1124 | 1395 | 2442 | | 25 | 25 | 65 | | 91 | 26 | > | 79 | 1347 | 1336 | 1791 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 58 | 26 | > | 80 | 1214 | 1346 | 1636 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 43 | 17 | > | 81 | 1376 | 1253 | 1517 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 82 | 1338 | 1659 | 1608 | | 25 | 27 | 25 | | 51 | 24 | > | 83 | 1491 | 1459 | 1449 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 44 | 19 | > | 84 | 1334 | 1669 | 1432 | | 25 | 27 | 25 | | 56 | 29 | > | 85 | 1229 | 1565 | 1583 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 47 | 22 | > | 86 | 1083 | 1408 | 1671 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 56 | 29 | > | 87 | 1153 | 1313 | 1622 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 47 | 22 | > | 88 | 1259 | 1259 | 1335 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 48 | 23 | > | 89 | 1346 | 1490 | 1448 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 45 | 20 | > | 90 | 1261 | 1436 | 1468 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 42 | 17 | > | 91 | 1416 | 1473 | 1635 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 53 | 27 | > | 92 | 1288 | 1635 | 1687 | | 25 | 26 | 28 | | 57 | 29 | > | 93 | 1433 | 1659 | 1604 | | 25 | 27 | 25 | | 56 | 29 | > | 94 | 1022 | 1154 | 1334 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 95 | 1093 | 1252 | 1678 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 58 | 31 | > | 96 | 1202 | 1794 | 1872 | | 25 | 32 | 35 | | 59 | 24 | > | 97 | 1505 | 1478 | 1536 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 53 | 28 | > | 98 | 1423 | 1632 | 1658 | | 25 | 26 | 27 | | 52 | 25 | > | 99 | 1024 | 1399 | 1505 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 48 | 23 | > | 100 | 1351 | 1527 | 1396 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 49 | 24 | > | 101 | 1287 | 1454 | 1785 | | 25 | 25 | 32 | | 64 | 32 | > | 102 | 1576 | 1636 | 1804 | | 25 | 26 | 32 | | 55 | 23 | > | 103 | 1035 | 1104 | 1366 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 52 | 27 | > | 104 | 1534 | 1713 | 2129 | | 25 | 29 | 45 | | 76 | 31 | > | 105 | 1430 | 1519 | 1768 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 58 | 27 | > | 106 | 1807 | 1519 | 1489 | | 33 | 25 | 25 | | 57 | 24 | > | 107 | 1472 | 1499 | 1608 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 51 | 26 | > | 108 | 1156 | 1195 | 1640 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 52 | 26 | > | 109 | 1257 | 1509 | 1829 | | 25 | 25 | 33 | | 56 | 23 | > | 110 | 1016 | 1499 | 1604 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 48 | 23 | > | 111 | 1295 | 2035 | 1418 | | 25 | 42 | 25 | | 68 | 26 | > | 112 | 1309 | 1571 | 1672 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 59 | 32 | > | 113 | 1212 | 1200 | 2047 | | 25 | 25 | 42 | | 64 | 22 | > | 114 | 1328 | 1335 | 1638 | | 25 | 25 | 26 | | 55 | 29 | > | 115 | 1183 | 1309 | 1675 | | 25 | 25 | 27 | | 52 | 25 | > | 116 | 1216 | 1617 | 1775 | | 25 | 25 | 31 | | 56 | 25 | > | 117 | 1418 | 1601 | 1540 | | 25 | 25 | 25 | | 50 | 25 | > | 118 | 1721 | 1757 | 1862 | | 29 | 31 | 35 | | 56 | 21 | And good old radio silence as always (does that mean 0% progress has been made?)ā€¦perfect communication. Keep it up! ---
**Author:** ![JamesDurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/141 "2024-02-05T21:11:39Z")
A couple possible problems with varying solutions. 1. Matchmaking skews towards level 1400, even at high levels. 2. Power is not linear, but what is it? Square root? 3. Lower VP/Higher VP limits could be off. > **Level difference to VP (unconfirmed)** > > | VP | Min | Max | > | --- | --- | --- | > | 25 | . | -613 | > | 26 | -612 | -588 | > | 27 | -587 | -563 | > | 28 | -562 | -538 | > | 29 | -537 | -513 | > | 30 | -512 | -488 | > | 31 | -487 | -463 | > | 32 | -462 | -438 | > | 33 | -437 | -413 | > | 34 | -412 | -388 | > | 35 | -387 | -363 | > | 36 | -362 | -338 | > | 37 | -337 | -313 | > | 38 | -312 | -288 | > | 39 | -287 | -263 | > | 40 | -262 | -238 | > | 41 | -237 | -213 | > | 42 | -212 | -188 | > | 43 | -187 | -163 | > | 44 | -162 | -138 | > | 45 | -137 | -113 | > | 46 | -112 | -88 | > | 47 | -87 | -63 | > | 48 | -62 | -38 | > | 49 | -37 | -13 | > | 50 | -12 | 6 | > | 51 | 7 | 19 | > | 52 | 20 | 33 | > | 53 | 34 | 46 | > | 54 | 47 | 59 | > | 55 | 60 | 73 | > | 56 | 74 | 86 | > | 57 | 87 | 99 | > | 58 | 100 | 113 | > | 59 | 114 | 126 | > | 60 | 127 | 139 | > | 61 | 140 | 153 | > | 62 | 154 | 166 | > | 63 | 167 | 179 | > | 64 | 180 | 193 | > | 65 | 194 | 206 | > | 66 | 207 | 219 | > | 67 | 220 | 233 | > | 68 | 234 | 246 | > | 69 | 247 | 259 | > | 70 | 260 | 273 | > | 71 | 274 | 286 | > | 72 | 287 | 299 | > | 73 | 300 | 313 | > | 74 | 314 | 326 | > | 75 | 327 | 339 | > | 76 | 340 | 353 | > | 77 | 354 | 366 | > | 78 | 367 | 379 | > | 79 | 380 | 393 | > | 80 | 394 | 406 | > | 81 | 407 | 419 | > | 82 | 420 | 433 | > | 83 | 434 | 446 | > | 84 | 447 | 459 | > | 85 | 460 | 473 | > | 86 | 474 | 486 | > | 87 | 487 | 499 | > | 88 | 500 | 513 | > | 89 | 514 | 526 | > | 90 | 527 | . | As someone around level 1500, there is a significant difference between a level 1200 vs a level 1800, often 1 hit vs 3 hit. Higher level players also are more inclined to have Zuul or other cards that can lead to random losses or decreased vp, eg you get less vp if Zuul manages to fire. Matchmaking (1) seems to be the hardest to change well. If they do make a change, altering the VP values would probably be the easiest. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/142 "2024-02-06T10:24:03Z")
> [@Lerena](#): > > All we need is a rough idea and I understand this may not be viewed as top priority, but players need to know where on the list this issue is likely to be. Knowing if weā€™re waiting weeks or months would be greatly appreciated. You probably havenā€™t been around for long yet. The way this usually plays out is that the Customer Experience Team wonā€™t be seen anywhere near this topic again. They just redesigned PvP, their idea of customer service is to ā€œtake feedback into accountā€ when PvP is up for the next redesign, in a couple of years from now. ---
**Author:** ![JamesDurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/143 "2024-02-06T13:03:58Z")
Preamble: I am advocating for change, and think better suggestions as to how to balance vp make it more likely that such solutions will be implemented. Part of the process is gauging how much of the community is affected and by how much. Judging by the battles Iā€™ve been offered, It seems like PVP VP works for most people. Roughly 3% (1700-1900) may have some adverse affects to vp, and 2% (1900+) more serious effects. Further divide that into which of those players want to grind to compete in their brackets, generously 15% or so? So youā€™ve got a fraction of a percent who are upset due to the unfairness. Even then, the current PVP is better than the old one. Considering what part of the community has complained, I donā€™t know if itā€™s enough to move management to push for the changes. Maybe thereā€™s some big spenders in there. Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774/144 "2024-02-06T13:59:25Z")
> [@JamesDurning](#): > > Considering what part of the community has complained, I donā€™t know if itā€™s enough to move management to push for the changes. The question you have to ask yourself: Why are players in those level ranges in the first place? Answer: They are your most active players. Paying money wonā€™t let you fast track the time spent on the game to level to that degree. So how does that matter in any way? Driving away your most active players is harmful to many categories of game metrics and most companies canā€™t keep a live service game going on goodwill and fair-weather daily login players. While thereā€™s no correlation between long term players and money spent, theyā€™re also some of the most likely people to want to see a game stay alive: sunk time fallacy. Then the next question: Does this negative experience actually matter? Thatā€™s up to the Gems of War dev team on who they want to keep as their player base. All I know is that Iā€™ve seen a lot of people leave throughout the years and guilds are struggling to recruit on my console. Less people, less opportunities to make money, right? Maybe theyā€™ve done a crazy good job that all of the spenders are staying and its the short term players leavingā€¦ yeah, I doubt that. Honestly, I have no clue who this game is (re)designed for. This time commitment is nuts for younger people, is monetarily demanding for young adults, and yet has flashy graphics designed to attract the younger audience at the cost of having visual impairment issues for current players, especially the older generation. Yet most people I have spoken to lean to the older side of things. Edit: And before people say you can play this for free!!, on console/pc, youā€™re still paying for electricity and on a phone, youā€™re doing wear and tear to your device that adds up. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774.md?page=6) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-not-a-call-out-just-a-screen-shot-from-pvp/82774.md?page=8)