# The 	Whitehelm Problem

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [April 4, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214 "2017-04-04T22:19:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![maximuse2004](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maximuse2004/32/16700_2.png) [@maximuse2004](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/maximuse2004)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214/1 "2017-04-04T22:19:53Z")

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I’ve been doing a lot more 3 star battles lately. I noticed like every single one of them is Whitehelm and keep getting yellow arcanes. Therefore any arcane I have more then anything is Yellow

My suggestion is,

If I fight Whitehelm or any kingdom make the arcane drop completely random. Just like if you do a treasure hunt, you have no clue what your gonna get. If I really wanted to get a certain arcane, I would go explore. This will help save explore time. Keep the same drop rate in PVP but make the arcane drop random.

This should help keep the colors more even. Beside would be more interesting when you do a PVP match don’t know what your gonna get

This is my personal opinion but I figured I would share it

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214/2 "2017-04-04T22:25:11Z")

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The latest dev comment on this issue is this:

> [@Lets not use Whitehelm as a home kingdom](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/lets-not-use-whitehelm-as-a-home-kingdom/12551/141):
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> While I can’t make any promises, I can say we have been discussing ways to improve traitstone variety in PVP.

Granted that was back in January, but with Guild Wars taking up a lot of the devs time, I doubt much has been discussed about it since then.

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**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214/3 "2017-04-05T02:21:23Z")

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I feel your pain:

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/4/94dd2429e199406183df5230002d02e258e3c510.PNG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/7/e73ab026b41f1d29659dbb3a3b6fb265f6cd8778.PNG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/9/f9f9512fc2830c2ca099e9457f500db69cde1e13.PNG) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/9/0904600051fa61e83fa81c68e5397f3f2db6bff6.PNG)

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**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214/4 "2017-04-05T02:47:50Z")

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Count this as my obligatory “full random is better than the current system but still pretty bad” and “revenge battles being in home kingdom was perfect, lets just use that” comment but with less words.

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214/5 "2017-04-05T02:55:09Z")

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Dropping in just to say please don’t copy this PC/Mobile all yellow all day festival to console…

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**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214/6 "2017-04-05T03:13:20Z")

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Agree. Great suggestion.

NowayJoe2Go

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**Author:** ![Beowulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beowulf/32/26390_2.png) [@Beowulf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Beowulf)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2017, 7:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-whitehelm-problem/22214/7 "2017-04-05T07:14:38Z")

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Can i take a major amount of those off you? I really need to trait a lot of my troops and I can use all that
