# The Issue Regarding Losing PvP Score to Gain Extra Defense Wins **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [May 30, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859 "2017-05-30T08:56:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SpecialRX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/specialrx/32/19075_2.png) [@SpecialRX](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SpecialRX)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 11:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/41 "2017-06-01T11:03:56Z")
I got really excited (and confused) on Monday morning, when I turned on the game to see my level 80 character had beaten 3 people in a top 5 guild, all +1000s… I thought it was too good to be true. : ( ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/42 "2017-06-01T15:36:47Z")
Thank you @sirrian ! We really appreciate you getting to the bottom of this issue and resolving it! In my experience, this exploit was a far bigger concern and problem within PvP rankings than the single troop defense, so it’s good that this issue may finally be resolved. Is there any chance the Developer team can tackle some of the quality of life issues like: excessive clicks required for Explore? Can you fix the Defense Team bug where if you edit an Offense Team in the PvP Screen, it changes your Defense Team to your edited Offense Team? Or, can you fix the GW Bug where you set a GW Defense Team and then you login later to find that your GW Defense Team has changed to a different team? Thanks, NowayJoe2Go ---
**Author:** ![PlayerDaniels](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/playerdaniels/32/6939_2.png) [@PlayerDaniels](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PlayerDaniels)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/43 "2017-06-01T16:00:30Z")
> [@Single Troop Defenses](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/single-troop-defenses/24808/112): > > We have a BIG priority list of things to do & fix here. In a perfect world, we’d be able to work through that priority list starting with the most impactful issues, and working our way down to the least impactful issues. But remember: > > Everybody has their own perspective on what that priority list is, based on their own experiences. So no 2 players or even devs are going to necessarily agree on priority anyway! > > Usually the biggest, nastiest issues require key people to solve them. Because those people are so busy, sometimes other team-members are solving smaller issues while the bigger ones are stuck in the queue waiting for attention from the correct people. > [@NowayJoe2Go](#): > > Is there any chance the Developer team can tackle some of the quality of life issues like: excessive clicks required for Explore? Can you fix the Defense Team bug where if you edit an Offense Team in the PvP Screen, it changes your Defense Team to your edited Offense Team? Or, can you fix the GW Bug where you set a GW Defense Team and then you login later to find that your GW Defense Team has changed to a different team? Soon. . .? ☺ ---
**Author:** ![thebuck2613](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@thebuck2613](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/thebuck2613)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/44 "2017-06-04T15:10:05Z")
so did those glitchers get a rollback? i would almost bet not since it lots of people possibly did not do this. but thats ok only when the whole server can do something it gets rolled back. they dont mind a couple people getting awesome rewards from glitches but when too many do it oh no they have to take it away ---
**Author:** ![theDrew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/thedrew/32/11408_2.png) [@theDrew](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/theDrew)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/45 "2017-06-05T02:54:15Z")
player theDrew here, i am actually the one who originally informed this def bug to NIM, many months ago, before this other person posted some vid describing step etc or whatever. i was not aware of that since i don’t visit these forums often. i made a YouTube vid on my channel theDrew24 4 months ago, showing me collecting from 3 or 4 days of waiting(866 wins/229 losses), but i don’t show HOW to do the steps in that vid. i even have a screen shot collection of 1346 wins/263 losses on steam > **[Steam Community :: Screenshot :: Gems of War, record 1346 def wins collected...](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=871366557)** > > Steam Community: Gems of War. Gems of War, record 1346 def wins collected at once! saved em up over the course of 4+ days... wow, so many!!! all cause i figured out a certain player Ghost was doing it when i checked his profile, and it took me couple weeks to figure out how his stats were like that. > **[Steam Community :: Screenshot :: Gems of War player has TOOONNSSS of PvP...](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=780603730)** > > Steam Community: Gems of War. Gems of War player has TOOONNSSS of PvP defensive wins and total battles! WAY more than 1st place ranked pvp player has lol. this was back on october, which is when i found it and let NIM know. and this last time i helped Sirrian with the best steps possible to “activate” this thing from what i have figured out for all this time. which it’s nice he was able to figure it out finally. just upsetting when some people on Global chat would be triggered by me, or upset i would not tell them the exact steps to do themselves, as if i invented it. i figured it out from just looking at Ghost’s profile. and i suspect he may have accidently activated it by simply losing a bunch. which is a strategy to getting to the revenge battles faster lol. ---
**Author:** ![Saluki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saluki/32/10639_2.png) [@Saluki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saluki)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2017, 9:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/46 "2017-06-05T09:54:37Z")
I for one appreciate your efforts to help Sirrian figure this out. Ive been there to see you try to bring this to the devs attention in the past and Im glad it has finally resulted in the problem being resolved. ---
**Author:** ![Gilgamesh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gilgamesh/32/29022_2.png) [@Gilgamesh](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gilgamesh)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/47 "2017-06-19T19:16:14Z")
This is very much a thing still. I encountered an opponent with 147 def wins hours after reset. Casual just need disabled and revamped later. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 6:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/48 "2017-06-21T06:47:18Z")
Yeah I’m coming across a certain player too each week that does this too. ---
**Author:** ![Alkali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alkali/32/16151_2.png) [@Alkali](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Alkali)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/49 "2017-08-06T16:55:19Z")
Eh, no. I need casual to collect for the events. Won’t refresh ranked. ---
**Author:** ![ONOPALAVER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onopalaver/32/46403_2.png) [@ONOPALAVER](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ONOPALAVER)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/50 "2017-08-07T06:59:05Z")
Is not fixed, is still running. And no by one player, plenty of them. and more bad, nothing happens to this people or guilds so we must suposse is legit and legal? ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 8:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/51 "2017-08-07T08:03:09Z")
then cant you do one ranked pvp before you do all the casual farming? from what i heard just one ranked battle will prevent the bug for entire week ---
**Author:** ![Alkali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alkali/32/16151_2.png) [@Alkali](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Alkali)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859/52 "2017-08-07T19:34:57Z")
I always do ranked until I reached tier 1… for the daily glory. All for the glory… and the events xD [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-issue-regarding-losing-pvp-score-to-gain-extra-defense-wins/24859.md?page=2)